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Mayor's Morning Meeting focuses on roads and traffic

Original post made on Jan 10, 2011

This month's Morning with the Mayor meeting started with a discussion about traffic improvements designed to keep Danville's hometown feel, then shifted to questions about safety. Tai Williams, the town's transportation manager, told the group that traffic for Danville focuses on efficiency -- for vehicles, walkers and bicyclists -- traffic safety and maintaining the town's character.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Sunday, January 9, 2011, 11:07 PM

Comments (4)

Posted by Duffy, a resident of Danville
on Jan 10, 2011 at 9:06 am

What do the STOP signs on the Iron Horse Trail where it crosses Greenbrook Drive and El Capitan mean?


Posted by psmacintosh, a resident of Danville
on Jan 10, 2011 at 10:16 am

"The intersection between Hartz and Prospect is not slated for a traffic light although some in the town have asked for it. Williams said that's because.......
(blah, blah, blah)

"......The town has installed curb bulb-outs.... Motorists tend to travel more slowly at intersections with bulb-outs as the street narrows. They also reduce turning speeds. ........
"...... and the no-parking area near Starbucks has been extended to give drivers a better view of the intersection."


Narrower streets are MORE DANGEROUS!!! That's why drivers are slowing down. Because conscious drivers inherently pick up on the higher danger created by these poorly-concepted bulb-outs.

The bulb-outs also place the pedestrians closer out into the danger of the mid-street. One step off of the curb and they are right into the stream of cars.
Additionally, people can just stand on the bulb-outs, making their "intention" UNCLEAR to the drivers. And which way are they headed?

The bulb-outs also force more in-street congestion of the flow of cars because now parking cars have to stop-and-backup (and its slower and more difficult to do) versus being able to drive straight into the end parking spots. This backs up the street traffic even more. And "backing up" always leadings to more accidents. Thanks Danville for the creation of all these future accidents, and tire-to-curb wear as well,.

And thanks Danville for the further REDUCTION OF PARKING in the areas where most people actually want to park in order to utilize the businesses of downtown. So further decline in downtown business.

Please disclose HOW MUCH these bulb-out changes COST us? For total planning and construction.

Oh, and thanks for the "rougher" street surfaces at the intersections as well. That's what Danville needs, more bumps and vibration for our cars.

Danville is showing itself to be quite foolish here!
(How much do Danville planners make?)

Better Solutions:
A TRAFFIC SIGNAL (set to trip only when there actual cross-traffic presenting itself from Prospect via cars or pedestrians) was the correct solution.
A less expensive (and less comprehensive) alternative solution would have been to add a STOP SIGN to the Hartz flow. (However, this doesn't control the crossing pedestrians as certainly as a signal that they have to trip and wait for.)


Thanks for nothing, Danville!


Prediction: In the future, Danville will outlaw all parking on Hartz and have mass parking lots several blocks away. (To be later followed by outlawing all driving on Hartz.)


Posted by Yogimon, a resident of Danville
on Jan 11, 2011 at 4:42 pm

Some of Mr Wohltmann's facts of the meeting are slightly distorted.

A message to psmacintosh: You should come to the Friday morning meetings. It's obvious you have much more insight on how things should be handled.


Posted by jrm, a resident of Vista Grande Elementary School
on Jan 14, 2011 at 9:59 am

A traffic light at Prospect PCmac? No way, why would you want a light at that location and then again 40 yards north at the Diablo Road intersection? Seems like a sure fire set up for gridlock. I think the bulb outs are a fine solution, I always drive about 15 miles an hour through downtown anyway, remembering pedestrians have the right of way even if not in a crosswalk and they cross Hartz all the time at all places unexpected.
I have NEVER had a problem finding a parking space close to my intended retail destination, the new lot behind Forward Motion, the lot west of the clocktower and the lot next to Bridges have always had a space for me when needed. The Library is a different story, I must say if there is a function at the Community Center parking is non existent. There seems to be plenty of spaces for Library users but when community functions are scheduled the is not a space to be had.
One final "thanks" to the city...I am a runner and for years the trail over the new bridge crossing San Ramon Creek at the east end of Laurel extending to Freitas was in terrible shape. It has now been repaved, trees trimmed and terrific benches added creating a great place to sit by the creek and enjoy the views of Las Trampas. Job well done.
I would like to see the city explore purchasing the somewhat ramshackle houses along the creek on Front Street and extend the Library greenbelt north. I think those lots could be diamonds in the rough..they have languished for years.


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