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Bay Area officials declare 6th straight 'Spare the Air' day

Original post made on Dec 12, 2013

Yet again, Bay Area residents are being asked to leave their fireplaces and wood stoves unlit during a sixth consecutive "Winter Spare the Air" day on Friday.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, December 12, 2013, 4:39 PM

Comments (12)

Posted by Rick Pshaw, a resident of Danville
on Dec 12, 2013 at 9:37 pm

Make no mistake, the libs want to ban all wood-buring fireplaces everywhere permanently. They are going about this goal slowly la the boiling frog metaphor, but that's what is in our future. No-burn days are just a part of the process.

N.B they also want to ban coal mining and coal burning. However, their most heinous effort is their desire to ban the internal combustion engine. For those of you in Rio Linda, this means your automobile. Nothing is said about what will take the place of these items. This is because they don't know, but let's not be too hard on such ignorance...They don't care either.


Posted by william johnson, a resident of Blackhawk
on Dec 13, 2013 at 9:07 am

Yes the comments by Rick are right on!! These environmental people want to take away your right to have a warm fire. Ignore Spare the Air Day and just light your fire after it gets dark---they have to have a picture in the daylight of the smoke coming out to prove their case.


Posted by CO2, a resident of Danville
on Dec 13, 2013 at 10:10 am

William:

Have you ever heard of infrared photography? The Bay Area Air Quality Management District has. Why not just do your kids a favor and follow a rule that's good for everyone?

Observe: Web Link


Posted by Huh?, a resident of Danville
on Dec 13, 2013 at 10:50 am

Thanks, William "I, me, mine" Johnson for demonstrating how self-centered you are. Your personal desire to have a wood fire in your centrally heated house is obviously far more important than the desire of your neighbors not to suffer from asthma, increased risk of cancer, heart attacks and strokes, among other things. Web Link But hey - it's You! And You are Special! Your whims take precedence over your neighbors' health. Have I got it just about right?

Of course, Rick, you've decided that medical science is a liberal conspiracy, just like climate science? Why am I not surprised?


Posted by Louise, a resident of Danville
on Dec 13, 2013 at 6:55 pm

We live in a polluted, poor air quality area. Just take a look outside and see the brownish layer low in the sky. That's the poison we all breathe daily. Let's all add to it by burning fires on stagnant and cold air days so that we can breathe in more chemicals that cause lung cancer and breathing difficulties. Go ahead and do it and too hell with everyone's health and well being including your own. That's the true holiday spirit.


Posted by Derek, a resident of Danville
on Dec 14, 2013 at 3:14 pm

Well Ricky, sometimes you can go a week or two without posting anything too inane, but then your inner Limpbaugh gets the better of you.
It's Saturday afternoon. I just came back from a bike ride down near the south end of the Iron Horse trail, and the air looking off to the southwest is horrible. Stagnant, smokey, opaque. It made me wonder why I didn't just stay home. Car traffic isn't helping, but nor are those who follow your advice. Open your eyes. The bad air quality isn't a secret unless you don't have use of your eyes.


Posted by Lib, a resident of Danville
on Dec 16, 2013 at 9:22 am

Well Rick, I guess wanting to breath clean air makes me a Lib. Your right to emit wood smoke stops at my nose just like my right to swing my arm with closed fist stops at your nose. This is no different than smoking on airplanes and in restaurants. We are all better off with that ban.
My house smells like a chimney because a couple of neighbors burn wood from November to May and pollute the whole neighborhood. It's time to stop this archaic practice.


Posted by PSMacintosh, a resident of Danville
on Dec 16, 2013 at 11:21 am

It is so good to see the local Bay Area environmentalists so strongly promoting the burning of non-renewaable and depleting natural gas resources that have to be produced by fracing techniques and transported in from neighboring states (and then later, once depleted, from foreign countries).
Radical Environmentalists are such conflicted hypocrites!
But they make a lot of money doing it--and then they are gone/retired--to leave the world to your grandchildren.


Posted by Huh?, a resident of Danville
on Dec 16, 2013 at 2:17 pm

PSM,if you abuse your neighbors by burning firewood in a typical inefficient fireplace, spewing particulate matter throughout the area, you are actually increasing your consumption of natural gas because a fireplace sucks in the warm air that your furnace has heated and sends it up the chimney, replacing it with cold air drawn in from outdoors. The area right around your fireplace is warmer, but the rest of the house gets colder, causing your furnace to work even harder to maintain its preset house temerature. So what sort of "radical" does that make you? Whatever it is, you don't seem "conflicted." Perhaps ignorance is bliss, after all...

Please educate us regarding the correct labels to apply to people we may disagree with. Namecalling is so much more fun than discussing facts, science and issues.


Posted by rick Pshaw, a resident of Danville
on Dec 17, 2013 at 12:18 pm

Interesting that most folks zeroed in on "wood burning" as the main topic of my original post. It's not about burning wood - it's about a burgeoning government running amok.

I mentioned banning coal burning in my original post and that was ignored by folks who commented.

I mentioned the internal combustion engine in my original post and that was ignored by folks who commented.

Again, IT AIN'T ABOUT BURNING WOOD!! It's about the gradual loss of freedom in most aspects of American culture. They (you know who) pick the soft targets and build up from there. Students of history will recognize this as the process dictators use to gain control - heard of Hitler anyone? What are you going to do when the lights go out...


Posted by Derek, a resident of Danville
on Dec 17, 2013 at 4:04 pm

I suppose you felt that one of your freedoms was being taken away when they started putting smog devices on your cars a few decades back too, eh Rick? Never mind that the benefit encompasses all of us.
You don't have freedom to spew unfiltered smoke Rick - your argument doesn't even make sense.
Some of us who actually worry about real issues are a bit more concerned when our government forces whistle-blowers into exile. That's a real freedom that is being taken away.


Posted by Huh?, a resident of Danville
on Dec 18, 2013 at 8:14 am

Yeah, all those freedoms being taken away - the freedom to murder, steal, own slaves, pour toxic waste into the air and water supply - yup, sounds like Hitler to me!

Rick, the reason we ignored the arguments in your original post is because they are moronic. There are 38 million people in California these days. And enough of them are self-centered jerks that we need to have regulations to keep them from exercising their personal "freedom" in ways that take away their neighbors' freedom - the simple freedom to breath clean air, in this case.

We get your point: the "libs" are ruining all your personal fun, ergo, liberals = Hitler. You and william johnson are prime examples of exactly why we need government regulations. Your selfish insistence on doing whatever you want, regardless of how much harm you cause others, has to be restrained by the force of law. Obviously simple courtesy and recognition of the rights of others isn't sufficient to keep you from abusing your neighbors.


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