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on May 9, 2014
I could not be more sorry that this was allowed...740 residences in this PARTICULAR area, already congested with traffic and other development and planned redevelopment. How unfortunate.
We in San Ramon will pay dearly for this in our quality of life; water supply; traffic issues and air quality.
Sad they would not reduce their size and footprint for sure...
This is NOT what I consider tempered and measured "progress" for San Ramon. Not at all.
Dear Ms. Bunny,
You are so correct...but my dear you and others can not do anything about it other than stop voting into office the self serving idiot's you folks do over and over. We the people can put a stop to all this craziness. You know the people before you vote them into office and you still do it...shame on you...look in the mirror if you want to point the finger.
Thanks for listening, Julia Pardini from Alamo
Do NOT vote for dems people! This is a real easy fix. They are not the party of the past. They are socialists.
Our schools are already overcrowded...
When will these homes begin to go on sale? We first one starts school in 2015, hopefully we can move here by then.
I see there is negative feelings about this, but it really helps families like mine who want to move to good schools and cities.
Never. Bunny and I are going to hire a guy who likes to play with matches!
Julia...Your assumption that it is completely those in office or the planning department's fault isn't really correct.
UNTIL the "laws of the land" are CHANGED here in California. Until those who purchase land as developers are cautioned with new laws stipulated on potential development, this will continue. You cannot deny a developer's RIGHT to develop their land within reason. They will win a lawsuit each and every time. This is a large part of the history of California development to date.
There was a guy running for council last November who opposed these developments and he got hardly any votes. Obviously the people are getting what they want.
@Ms. Bunny - best not to waste time trying to use reasoning with Julia P. Finger pointing is the name of her game and she really enjoys stirring up negative energy. Best not to play...
@ Derek - careful there. If anything does happen to those homes you've just made a comment on a public forum that implicates you.
The implications of this development will increase my drive time to/from work. I'm not thrilled abut it by any means but I realize that this isn't specifically about me or my commute. Tough issue.
So if a massive plague of super-termites were to uh... accidentally get loose on the Faria project, I would be off the hook?
You're right though - I know an entire FBI eco-terrorist division monitors these boards.
Derek, you think destruction and mayhem is the answer to a development project? Seriously? Please seek help guy. I did what I could through the "right channels" of communication; wrote my letter and another email. I have to wonder how MANY OTHER San Ramonians stood up here against this project. I'll wager? Not ENOUGH to MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Nonetheless, it's moved forward with little diminishment in size and scope.
PS Yes Sandra. I've been watching the "Julia" comments. I would offer her the same advice as Derek: seek help.
You do know that this project was approved years ago. This approval was for the changes to the project and to ensure that it met all the General Plan and Specific Plan criteria.
Additionally, anyone that think that their development was welcomed is mistaken. Unless your family has lived here more than 50 years then you live in a development that had school/traffic/water impacts on the residents that were already here. I am particularly frustrated at the people that live off Deerwood and live in Thomas Ranch complaining about traffic,, schools, etc. This city went through a big fight when your development were proposed and somehow we have SURVIVED YOUR traffic and school impact.
Get real people. We all cause impacts to the people before us AND there will be people after us.
Let's work together to minimize those impacts and make a better community.
You really need to understand sarcasm Bunny. I mean seriously, you cannot be that dense. Or maybe you can. And thank god for those letters you wrote (that's sarcasm too in case you remain confused).
I suggest you take your silly little vindictive remarks and put them to better use on the psychiatrist's couch Derek. You my boy, surely need their help.
People make me laugh! Instead of trying to work with others to find a resolution people find blame and anger, of which neither helps! It's very unfortunate that everyone, including govt, fights over who's fault everything is instead of working together to fix the issues! Don't ALL humans want the same thing? Respect and common courtesy should be at the top of the list!
People, you are getting just what you deserve, because you have allowed this to happen---Uninformed, apathetic, predominantly left leaning voters of which, only about 20% even bothered to vote. This city will become an overcrowded environment with an end game just like having too many rats in a cage. Rest assured, the mayor has already stated he is in favor of more traffic in San Ramon because that means more shoppers here and more tax revenue for the city----why do they need more tax revenue??, so the city council can do more to despoil our once great quality of life and turn San Ramon into just another ABAG stack & packed traffic congested people unfriendly monstrosity. Is this too "harsh", impolite?, not "measured" or "insensitive"---NO, our mayor & city council, fit that description; Want proof??, just take a look at the high density Park Central condo development on Norris C. near Alcosta. Park Central is the definition of high density with almost no green space. A development like that has no place in San Ramon---maybe in the people's republic of Berkeley, just not here.
Do the land owners have any rights? Do you live in a house you built or in a developed community? If you live in a developed community, then a similar discussion was held before that development was built.
The residents voted more than a decade ago to allow construction of homes on the hill where Faria will be built. Did you expect the land owner to just give up the right to build there and donate the the land to some park system?
Dublin and San Ramon have the same ethos...."build Baby build" and Faria "Preserve" will just one more reason why I try to avoid going to San Ramon. The loooong stoplights, aggresive drivers and jam packed parking lots remind me all too much of my past experience living in Orange County.
And now they want to build walkways over Bollinger and Crow Canyon for the Iron Horse Trail. More visual blight. One question arises though in these times....what are they going to drink in Faria Preserve? Where will all this extra water come from?
The San Ramon and east Dublin high density housing expansions really look a lot like the hideous mess in east San Jose and east Hayward / San Leandro. When will it end? Where will all these kids go to school? Who pays for all the infrastructure? And as JRM says, where will the H2O come from? Will the developers fly it in from Lake Michigan?
San Ramon residents had a great candidate for Council that was against stack and pack housing, and advocated slower growth. He lost bigtime. I guess San Ramon residents are getting what they deserve. And the developers are laughing all the way to the bank.
Danville residents better watch out in November. The Mayor-- High-density developer Robert Storer--and High-density development supporter Karen Stepper are up for election. Don't vote for them! They will sell out to developers every time. Storer owns a high-density place that he built right in Danville when he was a Planning Commissioner. How's that for self-interest?
Faria Preserve is the last open parcel in San Ramon of any significant size. There are no more open parcels over 2-3 acres, so there won't be any more big developments in San Ramon - unlike Dublin. Any future development will have to be at locations where something is torn down to build new.
San Ramon has a number of areas that could be "redeveloped", i.e. torn down & filled in with ugly high density ABAG stack & pack housing or "mixed use stack & pack". This is great for the developers and for the property owners that sell to the developers for grand profits----then the now flush with cash x-property owners can move to a much nicer low density, people friendly, low crime domicile far away from the new San Ramon that now will have deteriorated to nearly the same quality of life as the flatlands of Oakland. This is the future here!---build baby! The mayor and a certain council member are both realtors, anyone that follows the local politics knows where those two stand!
The alternative to higher density is sprawl, longer commutes and more traffic congestion. Workers in San Ramon already have some of the longest commutes in the region. And some of the worst traffic congestion.
You are right Resident, as I was concerned about FURTHER new development and have since discovered Faria is IT for the large parcels. Naturally, as mentioned, the redevelopment of north San Ramon looms overhead as well (i.e.,going "up" in tower type structures) It could be so much worse so I believe this will STILL continue to be a desirable community for MANY (certainly, more so than the TRUE sprawl of what's happening in Dublin) For those of us who've lived here "eons" and have participated/witnessed the massive new development in general? It is a bit harder I believe to digest. I've visited so many communities in recent years, however, here in No. California in consideration of a possible move. But? Now don't think that's imminent any longer. I'll take my "chances" here.
Spread out housing is way more healthier for people than stack and pack. Don't build more office buildings in San Ramon, and we won't need high-density housing to provide room for the workers. Read "Best Laid Plans" by Bob Silvestri, a liberal "environmentalist" that wised up about the negative effects of stack and pack on people's health. Stack and pack is supported by developers that want an excuse to force high-density housing into communities that desire to retain a low-rise, lower -density profile. Don't believe the developers' self-serving arguments!
So you are saying that longer and longer commutes are better and healthier?
Just so you know, Faria is not stack and pack. Most of the homes are single family detached homes. There are multi-family units being built as well but they will cost much less.
How can the San Ramon City Council approve this horrible plan??!!! NO re-election for all of you sitting on the Council. This plan will add unwanted traffic and polution to the area. I moved to San Ramon for the wonderful environment and small town feel (came from San Jose). This is terrible news! High density and "very high density' homes are coming to your backyard!!! Not to mention 'section 8 housing'. I worked hard for 15 years and have been smart with my money and bought home in SR 4 years ago. I'm sorry if people that dont work as hard or not as smart cant afford to live in SR before this Faria project was approved (per post above from 'lee'). Now with this high density housing road will be clogged, schools will be crowded and SR wont be the wonderful place it is today to raise a family. Bad move on the council's part - VERY CLEARLY all the SR council members dont have the best interest of SR at heart. How do you Council members/Mayor sleep at night?! All sell outs to be sure. No values.
I have an idea...how about tearing down Golden Skate and putting in a 15 story condo building with sweeping views of the valley and Mt. Diablo, and all the new houses in Faria "Preserve" ? On second thought, why think small, maybe with effort the city council will approve a 20 story structure...
Hey SR Resident to your question... "do you live in a house you built or in a developed community"?
And if you so, then a similar discussion was held before that development was built. Correct. And there was a lot of room then dummy. And yes the land owners have rights but have to go by zoneing laws and other issues. And yes they should have a right to sell the land and develop it. But there are rules and regulations in place to stop idiots like you that like traffic jams and lots of headaches. And trust me on this, nothing got approved without paying this so called planning commission off.Did you read this too man on the hill? And I mean a lot of money! It's all about the money buddy. I take it when you go on vacation you like to go to Hawaii or possibly Cabo..... or mabye even Puerto rico. You like low life people around you. When I go on vacation, I go to Bora Bora dumb ass. But they will find a way to mess that up too. It's a tiny little Island in the South Pacific..... but everyone wants to have their Hotel on it too! You see the smart thing is to go out on Dougherty road in San Ramon and build..... lot's and lot's of room. But you are like the other not so intelligent people....you wan't want to jam a home in that tiny little area and damn all these nice people that got there first!!!!!!!
Smart of Danville-
If you have evidence of felony bribery by the planning commission or the city council, then present it to us or to the District Attorney. Otherwise, keep your unfounded accusations to yourself.
Just because you do not like a development does not mean that the commission or council was paid off by the developer to approve it.
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