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Danville council meetings on plastic bag ban, Lawrence Road traffic safety

Original post made on Jul 15, 2014

The Danville Town Council has two special meetings this week about a potential plastic bag ban sandwiched around a regular meeting Tuesday night (July 15) during which council members will debate installing new traffic-safety measures near Diablo Vista Middle School.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, July 14, 2014, 5:29 PM

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Posted by Julia
a resident of Alamo
on Jul 15, 2014 at 9:35 am

DO NOT BAN PLASTIC BAGS. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT WHAT YOU ATE THINKING AND POSSIBLY GOING TO DO...

YOU ARE A BUNCH OF FOLLOWERS AND NOT INDEPENDENT THINKERS.

YOU GO WITH THE FLOW EVEN WHEN IT IS WRONG. YOU EXPRESS WEAK THINKING.

JUST BECAUSE A SMALL SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY HAS NO RESPECT AND FEELS NO RESPONSIBILITY IN KEEP STREETS AND CREEKS FREE OF THEIR TRASH...ALL SHOULD BE PUNISHED...THAT MY TOWN COUNCIL IS SMALL THINKING...

THAT IS THE CURRENT PROBLEM WITH OUR COUNTRY TODAY...THE SO CALLED LEADERS ARE LISTENING TO THE LOUD MINORITY VOICES AND IGNORING THE SILENT MAJORITY..

DO NOT BAN PLASTIC BAGS...AND SHOW US YOU HAVE GUTS THAT WE THINK YOU DO NOT HAVE.

Thank you listening, Julia Pardini from Alamo.
Yes even though I am from Alamo I am concerned about Danville and hope you folks stay on the right path of common sense.


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Posted by Yer a Snowflake
a resident of Danville
on Jul 15, 2014 at 10:27 am

Ban those stupid doggie bag dispensers (taxpayer funded) that "dog lovers" fill up and leave along the way for someone else to clean up.

Spend the savings on arresting people who don't clean up after themselves and their pets.


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Posted by Lori
a resident of Danville
on Jul 15, 2014 at 12:08 pm

PLEASE ban single-use plastic bags in Danville! Its the right thing to do, and will be easy for people to adjust. Our community is way behind the curve on this issue. Thank you.


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Posted by dogfather
a resident of Danville
on Jul 15, 2014 at 1:05 pm

Sure, YaS: you poor sap. You're gonna stroke-out someday, possibly over dog crap -- what a legacy!

"Here lies Snowflake, a dead Type-A. He couldn't adjust to a world that didn't operate completely to his satisfaction. Your dog will know what to do on this headstone."

Here's a clue -- folks don't make the effort to pick-up after their dog, only to then leave the bag by the side of the road or trail permanently. They leave it there temporarily, so they can dispose of it on their way back past the scene of the grime. THINK, man!


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Posted by #yourdog=yourresponsibility
a resident of Danville
on Jul 15, 2014 at 1:46 pm

LOL @ dogfather, they're going to pick up their doggie bag later. You mean way later. Like never later. Your backyard full of "pick-it-up-later" must be awesome.

Buy your own bags and clean up after your own dog. It's your responsibility, no one else's.


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Posted by dogfather
a resident of Danville
on Jul 15, 2014 at 9:49 pm

You're not paying attention. Does it make ANY sense to you that someone would go to the effort of bringing a bag, and using it, only to leave it by the side of the road or trail? Of course not -- if that was your intent, you just wouldn't pick it up in the first place. But people do -- some just would prefer not to carry it along when they know they're coming back. The trails are much cleaner since bags became available. Note that I'm typing s-l-o-w-l-y this time, so you might have a better chance of understanding.

People who complain Both about dog crap and about dispensers of bags to pick it up are numbskulls. By your 'logic' there shouldn't be any trash or recyclables containers, or benches, because after all -- your trash is your responsibility, and you can bring seating from home.

Oh -- and those bags are not for the dogs -- they're for the people. I have it on pretty good authority that the dogs think poop is interesting. They find it mildly amusing that we go to such pains to pick it up. They also think you're missing out on a lot in life. They're right.


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Posted by Treetopper
a resident of Danville
on Jul 16, 2014 at 10:11 am

I can't believe some of you; making a big fuss over poop bags and missing the bigger issue of plastic in our environment. If plastic bags degraded in the same way as paper, there would be no problem. But..... If you want to get a glimpse as to what plastic is doing to our world, google the debris field that is floating in the pacific ocean. It is the size of the state of Texas. Then think of all the bits and pieces that have already sank to the bottom. Then tell me about your pooper bags. Get a grip,folks!!! This is a worldwide problem and we're one of the biggest polluters


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Posted by spcwt
a resident of Danville
on Jul 16, 2014 at 11:03 am

Plastic bags made of vegetable-based bioplastics, biodegradable polythene film, polylactic acid, and oxo-biodegradable plastic all decay organically. They don't contribute to the Pacific garbage patch.

No need to ban all plastic bags.


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Posted by Derek
a resident of Danville
on Jul 16, 2014 at 1:26 pm

Boy, you never get tired of peddling your science fiction "bio-degradable" 2 cent bags (insert link here) do you spcwt?
Why don't you drive your solar powered Hummer around to all the retailers in the area, and collect a plastic bag from each one. Keep a little chart like you did in 7th grade and report back so you can edify all us deniers about how many you find. And don't forget Whole Paycheck - you might actually find the elusive Ark of the Covenant there.
The point isn't whether or not they exist. It's how many merchants are using them that matters. And how long it really takes them to degrade, which every poster here knows is a lot longer than you believe it to be.


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Posted by spcwt
a resident of Danville
on Jul 16, 2014 at 3:43 pm

I'm just trying to help.

You think $0.02 cents for a biodegradable bag is too expensive for merchants? Fine. Then you have nothing to worry about because no one will use them if they're too expensive. A lot of people might be fine paying $0.02 cents though. And the price might come down dramatically through economies of scale, especially if petroleum-based bags are illegal.

You say it takes too long for biodegradable bags to decompose, but it only takes 3 months. Web Link Okay, maybe 6 months depending on moisture and temperature. Web Link That takes away Treetopper's argument that the bags will end up in the Pacific Garbage Patch or forever stuck in creeks & such.

Some biodegradable bags are made of petroleum and don't fully decompose. Fine, ban all petroleum-based bags if you feel you must. But why ban all vegetable-based or polylactic acid-based bags?

Why ban more than you have to?


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Posted by Dewey Nemours
a resident of Danville
on Jul 17, 2014 at 8:21 am

Better things, for mid-century living ... through chemistry.

You were born too late, spcwt, to get full advantage of the throw-away culture.


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