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New Farm development seeks county approval

Original post made on Jul 19, 2009

A massive area of open space just south of Danville may be developed, under a plan proposed to create a mix agricultural/residential community.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Sunday, July 19, 2009, 4:49 PM

Comments (11)

Posted by Rick Pshaw, a resident of Danville
on Jul 19, 2009 at 5:17 pm

So the average parcel size will still be five acres even though the houses will be "clustered" together...

I can just see it - a few years from now they will come back and say, "Look at all this open space. We can build a whole bunch more houses on this open space (if we ignore that little cluster of houses waaaaay over there), and the average will still be pretty close to five acres each (provided we ignore that little cluster of houses waaaaay over there.)

Come on. Do they think we're idiots?


Posted by Tony B., a resident of Danville
on Jul 20, 2009 at 11:35 am

I have concerns regarding the New Farm development in the Tassajara Valley, not so much the actual development itself, which in concept, has merit, but the by-product in the form of increased traffic congestion on Camino Tassajara. One only has to see the current traffic flow on the aforementioned artery on a weekday morning, between 7.00am to 8.30am, in the area between Lawrence Road and Blackhawk Drive. Within this area of approximately six-tenth's (6/10's) of a mile you have an existing Grammer School and Middle School, with a new Grammer School (Creekside Elementary) to open in August 2009, to accomodate the new housing development in the Alamo Creek subdivision. Add into the equation the additional commuter traffic generated by individuals using Camino Tassajara as a shortcut from Highway 580 to Highway 680, and you have the perfect recipe for gridlock! As was the case with the hard-fought Alamo Creek development, the developers' had to cede to pressure from the Town of Danville and San Ramon, along with former County Supervisor Donna Gerber, to scale-back their construction to approximately 1,350 homes, v the original plans by the largest developer(Shapell), which called for in-excess of 4,500 dwellings. Development in the Tassajara Valley will have to be carefully and thoughtfully planned and researched, by both the Town of Danville and San Ramon, with acrimony put aside, exuding a united front displayed towards the New Farm developer, setting-up growth that can be balanced for both communities and the Tassajara area.


Posted by Concerned, a resident of Danville
on Jul 20, 2009 at 11:54 am

I am told by friends that live in Tassajara Valley that there are already issues with water shortage. Where will all the water needed for the new development and the farming come from? Aren't most of the homeowners in the surrounding area on septic and well water? I'm just curious.


Posted by Geoff Gillette, Danville Weekly reporter
on Jul 20, 2009 at 3:55 pm

Geoff Gillette is a registered user.

Concerned,
Thank you for the question. When I interviewed Mr. Koch he did say that they had an agreement with a private water supplier and would not be tying into EBMUD or any of the other water suppliers. I have added that fact to the story online and it will of course be in our print edition as well on Friday. It was left off originally because of the length of the story, but I have added it back in.

Geoff Gillette


Posted by Phil, a resident of Alamo
on Jul 20, 2009 at 5:49 pm

One of the issues of this development is the extension of urban systems, like a water system, outside the urban limit line. It sets a precdent.


Posted by Dave, a resident of Danville
on Jul 20, 2009 at 9:57 pm

San Ramon having full control of Tassajara Valley? Yipes :(


Posted by CK, a resident of Danville
on Jul 22, 2009 at 7:32 am

Increased traffic from 186 homes? That's hardly a drop in the bucket of the traffic volumes they have on Tassajara Road. Luckily, well depends which side of the fence you're on, but luckily they will have a engineers evaluate THEIR project's impacts on the existing and future traffic, water, sewer and all other environmental impacts...it's called CEQA, heard of it?(blatent Bruno refrence).
Any new development has to go. Sadly, what some local residents think the city or county needs to do to improve traffic flow or to constrain development with "smart planning" or other typical buzz words just isn't practical. You can't force FT Land LLC, with their 186 development to do additional off-site improvements or contribute anything above and beyond their proportionate share towards their impacts (traffic, water, sewer, schools, etc). I wouldn't be surprised, if there's enough money in the project, that the developer would be willing to throw additional monies at some of the needed community improvements. It certainly seems to me that they are already proposing this farm and park environment that will provide a unique destination and not the typical "park" that's found in most tract subdivisions.
I've got an idea, instead of Sally the home maker and Joe the Plumber giving their two cents as to how a real estate developer should design their project site and have them spends tens of thousands of dollars spinning their wheels to attemt to satisy the masses, let's have the professionals in those fields do their environmental analysis, evaluate the conformance with the General Plan, zoning ordinance and all other design criteria passed by the city/county. These guidelines are in place for a reason. Free up the developers cash and stress level so that they can push forward with a quality development, ehh?
Why not embrace someone that's willing to invest in a community these days? Unless they have deep pockets for funding, they are going to have a hell of a time with financing and spending time working with the city on how to help with that (possibly supplying short term equity in the project or buying the open space?)
good luck. Seems like quite the uphill battle for 186 homes, let's hope they hit the Market at a good time by the time they get entitlements and break ground.


Posted by Rick Pshaw, a resident of Danville
on Jul 22, 2009 at 8:07 pm

Yep. Open up the floodgates. We can trust the developers and their paid experts. Just what I want is to reduce developer's stress levels.


Posted by Madeleine, a resident of Danville
on Jul 24, 2009 at 11:54 am

Just what we need, more traffic...


Posted by Rick, a resident of Danville
on Jul 25, 2009 at 9:04 am

This is another plot to get low income, section 8 style housing in this area. They already brought it in on dougherty and crime went up IMMEDIATELY! Robberies of credit unions, car break ins, etc. Low income housing in a farm development means illegal immigrants. We need to pay our farmhands more and hire Americans. We think that paying workers cheap is good at first, until we realize that no one can live off that wage. So the average American says forget that. The average illegal says " no worries, I'll just use welfare and emergency healthcare for my ten babies. All I needs to give is a stolen social security number.


Posted by Rick, a resident of Danville
on Jul 25, 2009 at 9:16 am

Already most of the janitorial staff at bishop ranch are illegals. I saw them holding a protest for amnesty on camino Ramon, blasting Mexican music and waving mexico's flag. Few can speak a lick of English but they sure know the language of audacity and dissidence


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