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It is now AIM's obligation to all voters

Original post made by Christine Jenkins, Alamo, on Nov 4, 2008

Dear Editor,

This coming Sunday, November 9, Alamo Incorporation Movement (AIM) will kick-off their political campaign to incorporate their proposed Town of Alamo. At present, neighborhoods' discussion groups have concluded interest in incorporation because there is no definition of government proposed for rational consideration by a majority of voters.

It is now AIM's obligation to define their proposal of a local government for Alamo so a majority of voters understand incorporation in real operational definition. Neighborhoods remain ready to hear that defined proposal and are ready to refuse AIM the opportunity to make "Alamo our (their) Town" if such defintition is not provided.

We are waiting to join AIM in a well-defined success,

Christine S. Jenkins
ad hoc community committee
Diablo Vista region neighborhoods
csj94507@yahoo.com

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Posted by Alamo Ron
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 4, 2008 at 3:52 pm

Let's see,

The ad hoc "neighborhoods" are singing the same old song about "no definition of government" and an "independent city council" that will have limitless power to affect the lives of every Alamo resident.

Folks, it simply isn't true. I have asked repeatedly for them to name a city in California which has an "independent city council" and they have not responded. The simple reason for this null response is that there is no city council that is "independent" whatever that means." City councils are elected by the People and are responsible to the People to derive whatever power they have. If a council behaves in ways that are capricious and destructive, then the bums can be thrown out of office.

In addition, the "neighborhoods" have railed in the past about the lack of a Citizen's Oversight Commission to protect Alamo from the "independent city council." Guess who wants to be on this oversight commission...

With regard to the "definition of government", they are trying mislead you about the powers that town government would have and want you believe that an elected town council can do anything it chooses. Don't fall for this fear-mongering.

Municipal government is already very well defined, thank you, by state law and the California Code. Go Google the following

"The Powers and Limitations of a City"

and you'll get an accurate picture of some of the requirements for California cities. To think and say that they are undefined is inaccurate to say the least.

Sheeesh!


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Posted by Alamo Ron
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 5, 2008 at 7:21 am

Let's see,

I do often disagree with myself, now don't I.

The document I referenced illustrates that once elected a city council acts as sole authority in decisions of government and has no obligation to employ the will, interests and advisory of citizens in their decisions. By definition, I will admit, that is an independent city council.

I will further admit that such independent powers are not very different from the powers of the Board of Supervisors and we have all seen the unsavory results of our relationship with that board.

I will further admit that Danville, Lafayette, and more have independent city councils that have illustrated autonomous authority over the will of neighborhoods within their boundaries.

I will finally admit that I do not speak for AIM and it remains AIM's responsibility to respond to a majority of voters with a definition of government their council candidates will create.

She..eesh!

Alamo Ron



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Posted by Alamo Ron
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 5, 2008 at 7:47 am

Shame, shame,
Use my name.

Without permission,
You must be wishin'...

You want to be me,
but logic eludes thee.



The REAL Alamo Ron awaits the names of those cities with "independent city councils."


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Posted by Alamo Ron
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 5, 2008 at 8:16 am

Let see,

I deny my commentary and claim that although I am many among incorporation proponents I am not always Alamo Ron.

I do enjoy my own elusive logic!

She..eesh!

Alamo Ron


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Posted by Christine Jenkins
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 5, 2008 at 8:37 am

To reconfirm the obligation of the AIM committee to define the government their candidates will support as members of the town council:

Dear Editor,

This coming Sunday, November 9, neighbors wish to join AIM in an announcement of a well-defined incorporation proposal. At present, neighborhoods' discussion groups have concluded interest in incorporation because there is no definition of government proposed for rational consideration by a majority of voters.

It is now AIM's obligation to define their proposal of a local government for Alamo so a majority of voters understand incorporation in real operational definition. Neighborhoods remain ready to hear AIM's defined proposal. Neighbors, as the majority of voters, are ready to refuse AIM the opportunity to make "Alamo their Town" if such defintition is not provided.

We are waiting to join AIM in a well-defined success,

Christine S. Jenkins
Ad hoc community committee
Diablo Vista region neighborhoods


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Posted by AIM Les Leigh
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 6, 2008 at 8:19 am

Let's see,

It does seem that AIM has a definition of a government that has not been publicly provided to voters. If you access www.alamoinc.org and click on the Fish:

The Whopper: It's another level of bureaucracy!!

They want you to believe this but it's not true. We will replace a county bureaucracy of 9,000 - plus employees with 10 local and known Alamo staffers.

(end)

First, who are THEY and who are WE? THEY must be the majority of voters excluded from the incorporation process and WE must be the few within AIM that actually know the government that is secretly defined. And certainly who are these local and known Alamo staffers and when were they appointed to their positions?

She..eesh!

Les Leigh
AIM Council of Advisors
Diablo Vista region neighborhoods


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Posted by Just Me
a resident of Danville
on Nov 6, 2008 at 9:44 am

It seems that people in the neighborhoods want to hijack my identity on this forum. All that accomplishes is to create a chilling effect on civilized discourse. Unfortunate...

Diablo Vista region neighborhoods

Just me,
Halb Ailey


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Posted by Vince Kreigher
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 6, 2008 at 2:05 pm

For all neighbors,

Please access www.alamoinc.org and review the important posting, likely by Chris Kenber, on the civility of discourse. In the recent past, as exampled in this e-exchange, uncivil, defamatory responses have been posted to the original messages. In this e-exchange, others took responsibility for clarifying the responses in the name of that author.

The intent was not to steal anyone's identity but to provide clarity and apologies to the readers for the lack of civilized discourse by a proponent author.

We find humor that one more author wishes to be Hal Bailey when so many are already assumed to have that fictitious identity. I am sure the thousands of Hal Bailey's in Alamo will consider such activity in good humor.

Celebrate your opinions,

Vince








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Posted by Jane Murphy
a resident of another community
on Nov 6, 2008 at 7:35 pm

Dear Editor,

I would be amazed if any neighbor understands the full capacity and courtesy of our founder, Hal Bailey, in his service to principals, clients, associates, members and to his community. Hal would laugh with all those that choose his name for commentary, but I wonder if any would have the skill, background, knowledge, and expertise to claim equal performance to Hal Bailey.

As a former resident of Alamo, I am convinced that no community group member has Hal Bailey's global perspective and expert research/advisory skills. It is obvious that none have the willingness to broadly serve Hal's community.

So, claim Hal's name as you will and understand that Hal is laughing with you in such claims. It is only wisdom that comes from a global presence that allows Hal Bailey and his copies to serve your community.

Jane Murphy, Ph.D.
Member, CDSI Research Fellowship
Vancouver BC Canada


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Posted by Chuck Huntington
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 7, 2008 at 8:50 am

I have no interest in incorporating Alamo. A fire station is a mile away (Rossmoor), Sherrif deputies arrive within two minutes when called, and an ambulance arrived in three minutes through 911.

The roads are kept in good shape by the County (and us). Go to incorporated Orinda and talk to anyone on the street about road conditions and about who is going to pay for the million dollar repairs. They're trying to figure it out.

What other concern will incorporating solve??

Fugheddaboutit!!

Chuck Huntington


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Posted by Chuck Huntington
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 7, 2008 at 8:50 am

I have no interest in incorporating Alamo. A fire station is a mile away (Rossmoor), Sherrif deputies arrive within two minutes when called, and an ambulance arrived in three minutes through 911.

The roads are kept in good shape by the County (and us). Go to incorporated Orinda and talk to anyone on the street about road conditions and about who is going to pay for the million dollar repairs. They're trying to figure it out.

What other concern will incorporating solve??

Fugheddaboutit!!

Chuck Huntington


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Posted by Christine Jenkins
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 7, 2008 at 9:13 am

A TOPIC REMINDER:

Dear Editor,

This coming Sunday, November 9, it is AIM's obligation to define their proposal of a local government for Alamo so a majority of voters understand incorporation in real operational definition. Neighborhoods remain ready to hear that defined proposal and are ready to refuse AIM the opportunity to make "Alamo our Town" if such defintition is not provided.

Neighbors are waiting to join AIM in a well-defined success,

Christine S. Jenkins


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Posted by Harald A. Bailey
a resident of another community
on Nov 7, 2008 at 9:55 am

Dear Dolores,

This morning, people important to me, suggested that the entire track of this forum was my authorship. It is not. I will provide my position so all readers can be clear on the subject of incorporation.

I support a well-define government in an incorporation proposal subject to rational voter consideration. Without such definition I fully agree with a majority of neighbors that there is no basis for a YES vote.

AS you realize, Dolores, I fully provide my positions and research in direct communication with The Danville Weekly, Alamo Today, SRV Times, AIM, ACF, ASL and Diablo Vista region neighborhoods groups and committees. I have repeatedly applauded efforts by media and groups to provide information, research and definition to voters. I have further provided firewall for postings to your FORUM by my neighbors so they are protected from defamation and discord exampled in this chain of postings.

I support all neighbors and all viewpoints on incorporation with requested research, information resources and access to counsel and other advisory. It is my hope that all neighbors can take this exceptional opportunity to create a regional government appropriately defined for consideration by a majority of very savvy voters.

I am,

Harald Paul Arthur Balle
dba Harald A. Bailey
aka Hal Bailey


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Posted by WF Thompson
a resident of Alamo Elementary School
on Nov 7, 2008 at 12:17 pm

I find the information that has been submitted unsatisfactory. Low
Cost Housing has not been discussed as to Cost, Location etc.2. Fire
Protection has not been defined as to cost and the type of protection
we need and will get. 3. Police Protection has been vague as to costs and what we can expect. These are just a few problems that have been undefined.
4. The business base plus l0,619 registered voters are both LOW to
run a city we are not convinced it can be done. There are too many
discrepancies to vote for Incorporation.


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Posted by Christine Jenkins
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 7, 2008 at 12:56 pm

Dear Editor,

While a majority of voters are focused on AIM providing definition of the government proposed for the Town of Alamo, we can take time to answer concerns by our neighbor, WF Thompson:

There is no low cost housing requirement scheduled for our region including the proposed Town of Alamo. LAFCO can provide more details. It is the intention of the Business District investors to rejuvenate and replace current high-density residential in the district as luxury residential with or without incorporation.

Fire protection is provided by current districts and will not be part of any Town of Alamo.

Police protection is a contract option among the current sheriff services or possible services by other cities or park district police. The CFA refers to current staffing levels but is not defined to mean the combination of Highway Patrol and Sheriff.

There are two real income issues for the proposed Town of Alamo. First, the Alamo business district is in decline and will likely lose Longs, Wachovia, Blockbuster and other anchors during this recession. There is concern for YardBIRDS profitability and whether The Home Depot will continue operations. Second, the State can retain various state funds that are the basis of CFA viability and all our neighboring cities are concerned about the current State budget crisis.

We will thank Hal Bailey for these answers and return our focus to obtaining a definition of government from AIM on November 9, 2008.

Chris


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Posted by Alamo Spotlight
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 7, 2008 at 2:36 pm

CAUTION - CAUTION - CAUTION

You are about to enter the Town of Alamo. If you follow the yellow brick road marked ENTRANCE, remember there is NO EXIT and there is NO RETURN - EVER!


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Posted by Christine Jenkins
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 7, 2008 at 5:03 pm

A TOPIC REMINDER:

Dear Editor,

This coming Sunday, November 9, it is AIM's obligation to define their proposal of a local government for Alamo so a majority of voters understand incorporation in real operational definition. Neighborhoods remain ready to hear that defined proposal and are ready to refuse AIM the opportunity to make "Alamo our Town" if such defintition is not provided.

Neighbors are waiting to join AIM in a well-defined success,

Christine S. Jenkins






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Posted by Christine Jenkins
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 8, 2008 at 7:08 pm

Dear Editor,

I am now in response from AIM and have been informed that no definition beyond the potential laws governing options under incorporation will be their definition. The focus clearly is to allow autocratic rule by a city council without any commitment to a formation taskforce or similar for voter consideration.

As a result, neighbors, as a majority of voters, will now consider incorporation a dead subject and move on to appropriate formation of private councils and committees to protect our neighborhoods from Contra Costa politics.

We deeply regret this result because our majority as neighbors fully supported a defined incorporation for our region.

Thank you for your FORUM,

Christine


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Posted by Diablo Vista region neighborhoods
a resident of another community
on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:02 am

Notice:

The outreach e-mail address used in this FORUM, csj94507@yahoo.com, has been cancelled and there is no new address.

Your neighbors thank you for your thoughts and concerns.

Diablo Vista region neighborhoods


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Posted by Diablo Vista region neighborhoods
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 13, 2008 at 7:23 am

Dear Alamo Residents,

On November 19, 2008, 7PM, Creekside Church, in the Alamo business district, AIM will be presenting their specifications to prospective town council candidates for the nature and definition of government AIM committee members intent to establish for the proposed Town of Alamo. This will represent the first distribution of such definition and specifications requested by neighbors throughout nineteen months of AIM's exclusive incorporation process.

Please review www.alamoinc.org, Update #12, and determine your neighborhood's interest in monitoring such disclosure, definition and specification of a proposed town council.

Diablo Vista region neighborhoods


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Posted by Ad hoc candidates committee
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 13, 2008 at 11:18 am

Dear Editor,

Please access www.alamoinc.org and read the program release for AIM's November 19th candidates' meeting. Various current and former city council members will be providing definition of governments and the roles of city council members. It would be appropriate for your reporters to interview those individuals in advance of the meeting and publish an overview of their viewpoints on local government and city council members' responsibilities.

Danville, Lafayette and San Ramon current or former council members will be participating and describing forms of government used in those communities. Neighbors remain concerned that each is too much government for our region and prefer simpler, all-volunteer operations by citizen-led commissions for each function of government.

Ad hoc candidates committee
Diablo Vista region neighborhoods


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Posted by Diablo Vista region neighborhoods
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 13, 2008 at 5:13 pm

Dear Editor,

In clarification with the various current and former council members from neighboring cities our neighborhoods have been informed that such individuals are not providing definition of government and only discussing their experiences as council member. Our neighbors will remain uninformed of the definition of government potential candidates will serve in the proposed town of Alamo or any definition suitable to rational voter consideration.

It remains AIM's obligation to their neighbors, as voters, to define the government being offered for voter consideration.

Diablo Vista region neighborhoods


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Posted by Diablo Vista region neighborhoods
a resident of Alamo
on Nov 16, 2008 at 7:52 am

Dear Editor and Neighbors,

After nineteen months of failure to define a government in an incorporation proposal for rational voter consideration, we have come to this result:

Alamo residents interested in serving on a town council can learn what to expect in the first years of a newly formed government, at a meeting hosted by the Alamo Incorporation Movement (AIM) at 7 p.m. Wednesday. Anyone who takes on this task needs to know that the first year of a new town is an enormous amount of work," AIM said. "It's not the same as joining an existing town council. You're creating something from scratch." Wednesday's presentation, which begins at 7 p.m. at Creekside Church, will be an interesting one for anyone considering a run for the new council. Even individuals against incorporation may want to run to serve on the council. (excerpts from The Danville Weekly, Friday, November 14, 2008).

At this late date, we are still attempting to define the incorporation voters must consider. In the place of such consideration, we are asking five neighbors to take on the task AIM refused to complete in the incorporation process. Our majority was excluded from the incorporation process including the authorship, review and approval of AIM's incorporation proposal. Now, such candidates must define the government as part of their campaign or voters will have no rational choice in an incorporation election.

Diablo Vista region neighborhoods


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