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Letter: Mayor Doyle mad over criticism of his vote for Democrat Jerry McNerney

Original post made on Oct 20, 2010

"During the past week, I have received nasty, hateful emails and was ever approached and reprimanded in person at the Danville Farmer's Market for my backing of Jerry McNerney for Congress. … For anyone to suggest that 'I sold out my soul for a Veterans Hall' as one woman did is disgusting to say the least."

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 10:00 AM

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Posted by Dan
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2010 at 10:19 am

Thanks, Mike.

Another Vet for McNerney


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Posted by Rick Pshaw
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2010 at 10:56 am

I guess our RINO mayor only wants to hear posies and plaudits and no criticism is allowed. Well, that's what public service is all about. If you can't stand the heat, go somewhere where it's cooler.

Another veteran proudly for David Harmer.


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Posted by samiam
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2010 at 11:08 am

I don't actually have a great deal of support for either McNearney or Hammer, so I don't truly see this a a us vs them issue. However, I fail to see why the Mayor should be angry that his public support of a particular candidate is questioned by people who do not support that candidate. Being the Mayor means that you represent a specific aspect of the town. The two quoted persons that you noted did not agree with your support of a particular candidate, why does that make you angry? People have a right to disagree with you. Remember, it not your vote that is at issue, people have absolutely no way of knowing how you vote, that is private. People objected to your public support/endorsement of a political candidate, which differed from their own when you are, at least in their view, representing them.
How were you threatened? Were you threatened with bodily harm? If so that is illegal as well as wrong. Were you threatened with political retaliation, i.e., I will never vote for you again? That is okay and a possibility at any time with an elected from of government. The Vet Hall simply sounds to me like an accusation of tit for tat, which, while unfortunate, is very much a part of current politics....we saw that during the health care bill.
What are you so angry about?


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Posted by susan
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2010 at 11:20 am

[Post removed due to same poster using multiple names]


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Posted by Diane
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2010 at 11:26 am

Samiam, I think the mayor is reacting to the tone of the messages more than the messages in/of themselves. When he says he has received "nasty, hateful emails" it implies that there is some vitriol involved with the basic content.

I also vote outside my party at times and find myself on the receiving end of angry diatribes from others who vote only with their own party.

Yet, I agree that hearing from constituents even when out shopping comes with the territory of being an elected official. Though I do think most of us are capable of getting our messages across in a way that is absent hateful and nasty commentary.


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Posted by jjjj
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2010 at 2:38 pm

where did the mayor stand when the vets wanted to name the hall after one of danville fallen vets solidfly against it. yes he served but a chaplins assistant isnt exactly in the line of fire.
another proud vet for harmer


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Posted by Citizen Paine
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2010 at 3:04 pm

When you look at Mike's life-and-times, I think he's a True Believer -- in the Democratic System for which he fought, and in which he has served the public good, as he has wit to see it, for many, many years. So I mean 'True Believer' in a completely sincere, complimentary and non-ironic way.

I'm guessing that he was at the Danville Farmer Market to be accessible to his constituents (I can conjure no other rational basis for such attendance, as it's w-a-a-a-y over-priced vs. local alternatives, but I digress).

I think he's reacting to a very real increase in incivility in our political discourse. Whether it's born of internet anonymity, right-wing-outrage/left-wing-snide radio, or the envy and helplessness some folks feel as the power torch inevitably passes from their generation (looking at You, TPartiers), THAT's the real "shame" here.

So, trying to put myself in Mr. Doyle's loafers, I'm guessing his annoyance derives from the fact that he's suffered and risked and done The People's work for-just-about-ever -- and it's earned him a public dressing-down from somebody who sits on her keester, watches Faux News and then engages in projectile shaming. Can you really blame, much less shame him? Not I.

So, FWIW, I'd just like to take a few minutes thank you. Mike, for your many and various kinds of service. As the Romans used to say:

"Illegitimi non carborundum!" Web Link


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Posted by psmacintosh
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2010 at 4:52 pm

You're "mad as hell" because some of your constituents are unhappy with you for using your political office, which we have given to you, to TRY TO INFLUENCE OTHERS to vote your individual way.
Sounds to me like they are well within their rights to let you know that you have irked them.

Maybe you (and ALL mayors) should stick to the business of running their own town and keep out of the influence peddling business.


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Posted by markm8128
a resident of another community
on Oct 20, 2010 at 5:20 pm

I think Harmer's support is going to fall rather rapidly, now that he has publically stated that he favors abolishing the puibic school system!

Remember, that Harmer's Tea party supporters, are not like any Republicans you have ever heard of. They are the most radical and extreme finge group involved in American politics, today. Pay close attention to what they believe!

Tea Party candidates, around the country, have been advocating abolishing the most solidly popular programs in America....Social Security and Medicare. Analysts have pointed out that Social Security is not not a part of the US Deficit, and that the system will be completely solvent, after a few more decades...after we have gotten past the wave of baby boomers retirement.

I have been paying into these systems, all of my life, and I am horrified by these extremists, who would willfully abandon the elderly...just as they have no plan, whatsoever, to offer health insurance, to the large numbe of unemployed Americans.


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Posted by Rick Pshaw
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2010 at 5:34 pm

Tea Party: Taxed Enough Already. Why is that so hard to accept?



Oh by the way, McNerney voted for ObamaCare.


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Posted by sarah
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2010 at 8:02 pm

I find it rather pathetic that the Mayor feels a need to lash out because he is "mad as hell" that certain members of the group he was elected to represent are upset that he is using his office and official status to promote a specific candidate. Correct me if I am wrong, but he didn't give a personal endorsement, but rather that of the Mayor of Danville and as a Republican. The two people he sites specifically as being a problem are both women. Given the age of the Mayor, I could easily assume a bit of misogyny was showing. One woman's husband would be ashamed of her, is she not allowed her own opinions?
Actually, I am supporting McNearney. However, the overly sensitive reactions my Mr Doyle are convincing me that he really shouldn't be in public office.


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Posted by Pedal Power
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2010 at 10:35 pm

Whatever happened to the concept of "sticks and stones"?

I don't see "getting mad" as an appropriate response even where safety is involved (thinking physical threats to self or family members) - if it is a credible threat, just preempt it), but I really can't see "getting mad" about other people's personal opinions, no matter how aggressively delivered.

My recommendation is to either grow a thicker skin and ignore it, grow some intestinal fortitude and tell them where to shove it or, maybe best of all, convert them to your presumably logical way of thinking.

PS 0 If you want to get mad about something, how about those dumb bulb-outs on Railroad - now those are dangerous! And how many times have they had to be repainted?


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Posted by Caroline
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2010 at 10:49 pm

I am grateful that McNerney voted for Health Care reform.
Where were tp'ers when George Bush was in office? Bush's administration started not just one, but two, wars and didn't have any way to pay for either one. (The old Doublemint commercial comes to mind: two...two...two wars at once.........and no plan to pay....) No new taxes, but lots and lots of debt - which we now have to pay off.
I am surprised that Mayor Doyle is shocked at peoples' responses to his endorsement. He must be aware of how thick politics is with poisonous rhetoric that gets us nowhere. The hostility and lies are truly sickening but not surprising given what has already been thrown out there by the folks of no and the tp'ers. At least Mayor Doyle took the heat for endorsing the right candidate, McNerney.


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Posted by Get off the cross we need the wood
a resident of Danville
on Oct 20, 2010 at 11:47 pm

Mr. Mayor - Take your last sentence and change the words "voting for" to "love" and perhaps you'll understand why so many teens who are gay or perceived as gay are killing themselves after suffering this same type of bullying treatment every day for years. Welcome to our world. Remember your stay in it the next time any teen bullying issues come before you as an elected official.

To those commenters who are upset that Doyle appears to be using his position as mayor to influence you on an issue - you reap what you sow and it's come back to bite you. During the Prop 8 debate, I questioned the appropriateness of allowing the Mayor to use the Mayoral title (especially since that title is not an elected one) to support controversial causes, especially those not directly related to city business. I was criticized for the suggestion and not one member of the Council would discuss it.

City officials are free to vote however they wish and personally support any issue they want. But there really should be some policy about the rotating, nonelected mayor being able to use the mayoral title or office to advocate for things not related to city business.


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Posted by George
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 21, 2010 at 6:35 am

So... your support for Tauscher and McNerny clearly means that you also support Obamacare, bailouts, stimulus, cap and tax, and the other failed socialist programs that those two support. Hoping this doesn't make you too mad... but I'd NEVER EVER support you because of your support of them. Your skin might be a little thin, huh? Another proud Marine for Harmer, lower taxes, smaller government, and liberty over tyranny.


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Posted by Bill
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 6:44 am

I am totally behind mayor Mike on this one. With the comments coming from those backing Harmer I sure see why someone would support McNerney. The vindictive nasty behavior by some is really un-American as far as I'm concerned. At least our mayor is using his brain and not following like some lemming in march step with the "party line".

The cheap shot by the Harmer supporter about being a Chaplain's assistant is typical of the far right. Any job in any branch of the armed services is just as honorable as the next.


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Posted by sws
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 6:55 am

Since when is it forbidden to advocate for a candidate whether you're a gardener, fire chief, CEO, government official, etc.? And since when does a district representative (McNerney) have nothing to do with the town's business? There sure seems to be a lot of nasty dialog in this "Camelot" community instead of civilized discussion.

I am a Republican and Veteran, and I am voting for McNerney. OK, go ahead and hit me now. Go ahead!

Thanks for your service to your country and this town, Mike.


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Posted by Danville Dad
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 6:56 am

Another Vet for McNerney, Mike and sanity. Good for you, Mike! And Bill is right on. Ignorance, name-calling, and vapid repetition of asinine party-line labels and slogans are the wrong things for our town and country, and clarify these people's character.


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Posted by Curt
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 21, 2010 at 7:10 am

Mike's, reaction to those he is to represent is that of another arrogant small town Politician on the wrong side of the issues. Time for you to move on…. Get a life!


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Posted by Tom
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 7:43 am

Mike, I am proud of you. You understand what is important in this country right now. David Harmer is dangerous to the well being of our nation. No one realizes he has called to abolish public schools. Check this op ed he wrote in the SF Chronicle Web Link Harmer is just another tea partier who whines about everything and makes our country weaker by hour. No idea, no vision and hates government (which is ironic that he wants to be part of it. Must be because since he failed at business he figures taking a job where he eliminates everything is an easy paycheck)McNerney is a leader who helped this district immensely. Tea Partiers, stop abusing a good man like Mike Doyle who exercised his constitutional right and actually has a track record of governing. All you have is a track record of complaining.


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Posted by Citizen Paine
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 7:52 am

...and the beat(ing) goes on, eh Curt?

The TPers' true black-n-blue colors are coming out, just-in-time. Apoplexy is not a platform -- simplistic slogans are not solutions.

Come back to the rest of us after you've taken a time-out to soak your heads and come up with some actual ideas.

Avoiding cynically misguided, $Trillion-dollar foreign wars you can't pay-for might be a good place to start.


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Posted by spcwt
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 8:02 am

I voted for McNerney in 2006 because I was sick of Republicans' support of Bush after he started those wars. But McNerney's votes for Obamacare and Cap & Tax are unforgivable.

I didn't know Mayor Doyle supports McNerney until I read his letter. Thanks for the info. I don't think I'll vote for Doyle again.


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Posted by sarah
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 8:02 am

Pedalpower-

I agree, the bump outs on Prospect are not only NOT an improvement, they are a menace. I have actually no idea what they were (or were not?) thinking then.

For those defending Doyle's letter so ardently, I think there are two points to be made.
1. Does he have a right to support anyone he wants to ? Yes

2. Do others have a right to disagree with him? Yes

3. Does it make a difference if I support something as a citizen or as an elected official with both party and official titles? yes

As the Prop 8 dissenter noted, some people take certain opinions personally. They have the right to let you know that they disagree with support given that implies their support as well.

As stated before, I actually support McNerney. What I find distasteful is Doyle's grandstanding. If the two comments he listed were the worse he received, it doesn't sound that bad. If he received actual threats, it is different, of course, but he doesn't list them. If the treat was simply, I will no longer support you as you are not really representative of my view, that is very legitimate and actually useful information as it might be something for you to work with.


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Posted by Linda
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 21, 2010 at 8:26 am

Personally, I don't care who the Mayor, or anybody else for that matter, votes for. I don't believe people have a right to be mean though, and I think that we all need to practice respect.

However, what shocked me was, "I know her husband would be ashamed of her". What? How insulting! This was an adult, in charge of her own life..... Not a child.


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Posted by TL Nelson
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 8:28 am

Jerry McNerney's voting record shows that he is closely aligned with the Democratic Party leadership. However, the Democratic Party today is not the same party it was 10 or even 5 years ago. The Democratic Party now controlling our nation's government is dominated by left-wing ideologues intent on the growth of big government, lavish spending of borrowed money and the establishment of a socialist-dependency culture.

I believe that America's greatness is based on a culture of personal responsibility and self sufficiency. Americans want to provide for themselves and their families. They do not seek a society where the majority are dependent on the government for their sustenance. Americans want opportunities to improve their lives, not handouts from taxpayers.

I say this to Congressman McNerney and to his supporter, Mr. Doyle: I reject your Marxist and socialist ideals. I reject your big government agenda. I reject your vision of a dependency culture. I reject your reckless disregard for fiscal responsibility.

My vote on November 2 will be to restore the fundamentals on which our nation was founded. I will vote for sane, level-headed, fiscally responsible, limited, centrist government.


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Posted by Manny
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 8:38 am

It's amazing how many of these people who are angry at Doyle are just parroting phrases from Fox News. [removed] Probably seek out no other source of information besides Fox


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Posted by Karl
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 8:51 am

We didn't elect Doyle to be a political influence peddler.

You got my vote last time .... and it was the Last Time.


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Posted by Sarah
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 9:06 am

Manny:
Everyone knows that everything you hear on Fox New is the WHOLE TRUTH. I realy don't understand why Tea Party members are so upset-I though the US Constitution gave us the right to vote for whomever we choose.
BTW:I think Harmer wants to privatize social security and eliminate public schools.


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Posted by Chet
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 9:07 am

Mike Doyle is 100% correct to support Jerry McNerney in this election. He like many Republicans have the brains to vote for the man and not always vote the party line. Jerry McNerney has done great things for our town and our district. We could not find a better Congressman for us all. Mike Doyle did not sell out he made a smart choice.


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Posted by sarah
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 9:09 am

Manny-

I am a SUPPORTER of McNearney, a Democrat, I couldn't tell you anything about Fox at all, because I do not watch it.

However, I do think Doyle is acting a little odd about it. The comments he complains about are all from women, and, jeez, one woman actually might be saying something that differs from what Doyle thinks her husband might say, so she'd better not think for herself. THAT bothers me. I also think it is perfectly ok for those who disagree with him to let him know that they do, that is part of being a democracy.
As I stated earlier, this letter makes me think that I should never vote for Doyle, not because he supported McNearney, but because he seems to be a bit defensive and sexist for me.


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Posted by daveday
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 9:30 am

Two weeks ago I was informed that my Medicare Advantage plan was no longer going to be offered. Yesterday I confirmed this was a direct result of changes in the Obamacare plan, and that a comparable new Medigap plan and prescreption drug plan would probably cost me an additional $2,000 and $3,000 per year - forever. I cannot support a Congressman who voted for that (Jerry) and I can't support my Mayor (Mike) who supports that Congressman. No Way! Mike has hooked his horses to a loser.


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Posted by Joe
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 9:34 am

You know I really miss the days long ago when people would argue their political points and at the end of the day cast their vote and then go out to the local bar and drink with those same folks they were arguing with. It was a time when we could have our opinions, fight for them but still be together as Americans. Now its either your with us or your a moron and should be hung up from the highest tree. Forty years ago I would never had believed this to be the way our country would go. Its one of the main reasons I've gone independent so I can vote both sides of the spectrum based on what I feel is important and not just cause my party needs total dominance. If you don't like who the mayor supports fine. Bolster your opinion by arguing for your candidate. If your only option is to strike out at the supporters then apparently your candidate doesn't have the necessary qualifications to win the job on merit. If you don't like the mayor, don't vote for him. But don't vote for him because the town is going bankrupt, our infrastructure and parks are falling apart, corruption, failed police force or any other of a myriad of problems controlled by the Mayor and city council. Not voting for the Mayor because you don't like who he supports, is like shooting your oncologist because you'd rather die then be treated by a Democrat supporter.


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Posted by PatrioticGrandma
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 9:48 am

Oh, my...first of all let me set the record straight. HARMER SUPPORTS and Honors our Vets! His own brother is currently serving our Country and has a high rank. Harmer also supports PUBLIC SCHOOLS! He has raised a lot of money to reduce class size in his district. His wife, Elayne, is a PUBLIC SCHOOL SUBSTITUTE TEACHER and All 4 of his kids attend PUBLIC SCHOOLS. Stop the DIRTY Politics, NOW. I agree, what's there to be mad about, Mr. Doyle, because so many patriotic voters are sick and tired of Pelosi Puppet McNerny taking our hard earned tax money to contribute to corruption and "spreading the wealth", including sending Stimulas money to zip codes that do not exist. Harmer will take up back to our Constitution that makes us the best Country in the world...the most compassionate...the most generous...the one that cherishes FREEDOM. I am fighting for my grandchildren. [removed] Time to wake up and protect our God Given Freedom and kick the bums out...and that includes McNerney!


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Posted by USMC Vet
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 9:54 am

@jjjj Being willing to put one's life on the line has nothing to do with his MOS. I was willing to put my life on the line for our freedoms, but I was unable to serve in a "combat", official "line of fire", position due to my being female. Does that make me any less of a Marine? I think not. At least in the Navy, chaplains assistants carry weapons. They are responsible for the Chaplain's safety, just like a General's security team is responsible for his/her safety. Once one signs on that dotted line, s/he can be in a combat situation at any point of deployment. Servicemembers in all MOSs carry weapons (besides Chaplains, as far as I know) during deployments in order to fight for the mission at any moment. For you to downgrade the mayor's service because of his MOS is aggravating. Anyone who has signed up for our military, voluntarily or involuntarily, and served honorably deserves our thanks, not criticism for the job s/he given.


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Posted by Dalen Fuller
a resident of Blackhawk
on Oct 21, 2010 at 10:05 am

I'm certainly happy to heaR that you voted for this "Pelosi Puppet" I hope you don't intend on running for any re-election or for any other political arena because my and my families vote will be a "no show" - RINO Doyle.


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Posted by spcwt
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 10:07 am

Joe,

Doyle may be doing a good job as mayor, but he is using his position to support a candidate that has harmed our country by voting for Obamacare. He's like an advertising firm that does good work for you, but also does good work for tobacco companies. No thanks. I'll give someone else a try from now on.

Plus national politics have local impacts. People in a wealthy community like Danville will now have to pay additional taxes to fund Obamacare. That means we'll have less money to spend here in Danville. Doyle is supporting a guy who voted for that? No thanks.


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Posted by Lynda
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 10:08 am

I personally think you rock, Mayor Doyle, and hope you keep exercising your rights and making your own choices, as every American should.

I would say I'm disappointed in those who have been so downright mean and disrespectful in their disagreement with your choices, but I've lived in Danville long enough to be numb to it. Sad.


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Posted by Duffy
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 10:13 am

When an individual attains an elected office he places himself in the public spotlight. The criticism Mike received is within the bounds of freedom of expression directed towards a public official who has stated a political position. As Harry Truman said, "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen!"

Mike has inadvertently fallen into the trap of supporting a candidate based on a single issue
(in this case Veteran's rights). Those who criticize his stance do so from a position of examining the entire spectrum of McNerney's ideology and performance..... and they find it lacking.


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Posted by Rita
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 11:09 am

It amazes me that there is such continuing invective over uncivil and accusatory actions of citizens against their elected officials-both Mike Doyle and Jerry McNerney. When did it become ok to be so mean and hateful in discussing issues or people in the public square (or Farmer's Market)? Have we not taught our children, and ourselves, how to argue an issue? I would like to discuss what some call "Obama Care' for instance, and the comment about how losing Medicare Advantage coverage resulted in a more expensive option. If health care reform did not pass, and you lost your Medicare Advantage plan, there would be NO options for you, except your Medicare. Because of the reform law, you have a more expensive option, or you can wait until there is an exchange and you can purchase a lower cost medi-gap plan. Let's discuss the issues-not use hateful personal attacks to work with our officials.


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Posted by msvenezia
a resident of Montair Elementary School
on Oct 21, 2010 at 11:10 am

I'm mad as hell also!

I'm mad as hell that our politicians have built $13.6 trillion dollars in "debt" that my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren will have to repay as indentured servants to an out-of-control government.

I'm also mad as hell that there is another $110-$120 TRILLION in "unfunded" liabilities for future social security, medicare, medicaid, pharmaceutical and now Obamacare payments due over and above the funding sources.

The total official and unofficial debt exceeds all the money and property value on earth!


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Posted by JRM
a resident of Vista Grande Elementary School
on Oct 21, 2010 at 11:27 am

JRM is a registered user.

I support Mike's comments, the tea partiers have historically behaved poorly at times, we all remember their hate filled signs and disruptive behavior at various town hall meetings over the last 12 months across the nation, and closer to home they had 2 wacko wingnuts at the Farmer's Market 5 months ago hurling insults to those that didn't see things their way. Regarding politicizing his office, don't forget that Candace Anderson was the first to do so, she publicly endorsed Harmer. Remember, Harmer doesn't even live in our district!!!


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Posted by Karen
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 11:29 am

Hey Duffy,

Maybe Mike also believes in Health Care reform, protecting the environment and combating Climate Change (things most Republicans support when the idea's don't come from Democrats. In case you don't know Cap and Trade was a initially a Republican idea.) Maybe he also supported Jerry's bold decision to support the Republican driven TARP bill. I am also pretty sure you have never met or listened to jerry McNerney. He is pretty moderate. You should actually go hear him in the debate this Saturday in Tracey. You might learn something.


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Posted by Kim
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 11:49 am

It's amazing the pure hatred being demonstrated in these posts about Mike Doyle crossing party lines. Mike has every right to vote for he who he chooses regardless of party affiliation. I do not agree with the many others who are saying he is using his position to influence others to vote. Mike's day job just happens to be Mayor of Danville. Would it be any different if a CEO of a company came out and endorsed McNerney? Would the employees of the company be saying he/she was trying to influence their vote(s)?

My husband and I are voting for McNerney. By the way, my husband is a proud, retired Marine (Gunnery Sergeant) having served in Vietnam.

One question I wanted to ask the others blasting Mike for voting for McNerney--would you still be criticizing Mike if had endorsed Harmer instead? I would be interested in knowing.


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Posted by Okiebill
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 11:50 am

Kudos to you, Mayor. Jerry McNerny has been a tremendous supporter of our Veterans. Thank you for supporting him.


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Posted by sarah
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 12:05 pm

Again, many of us are NOT blasting Doyle for voting for whomever he wants to. Nor are we blasting him for using his office/official standing to promote another candidate. What I, at least, as well as at least three other posters I noted, are noting is Doyle's response to criticism. He seems to be a bit sexist. I don't care who he advocates for, as I noted earlier, he is actually supporting a candidate I support. Conversely, I am very unlikely to support him, as he is a Republican and seems to have his job most as a "good old boy"...

btw, I do not believe that being a veteran, while honorable, is a requirement for political discourse


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Posted by sarah
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 12:08 pm

jrw-

Candace Anderson did not write a note saying she was "mad as hell" because other people, specifically women, told her that they didn't agree with her.

Prior to this article, I neither knew nor cared how ANY of the Town officials view Congressional candidates. I make up my own mind re the issues and actions of the candidate him/herself. I don't vote a specific way because the "cool people" tell me to.


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Posted by Liberty
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 12:26 pm

To markm8128

The left has learned that if you tell a lie long enough their soft headed followers will believe it. David Harmer did not advocate abolishing the public school system. You repeating McNerney's lie doesn't make it true.

We do have freedom of speech, however we are not free from the consequences of the things we say. Mr. Mayor you can say what you want but you should also take the lumps that come with it.


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Posted by Lynn
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 12:40 pm

With comments like these I can now see why McNerney signs are being stolen all over Danville


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Posted by Tom
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 12:55 pm

markm8128.

Maybe if you read the article I posted instead of denying it you would realize what Harmer wrote in his own words. To make it easy for you here is the complete 2nd to last paragraph. Remember these are David Harmers words, not the Huffington Post or Mother Jones. His actual words

"So long as the state Constitution mandates free public schools, a voucher system (or refundable tuition tax credit) is the best we can do. To attain quantum leaps in educational quality and opportunity, however, we need to separate school and state entirely. Government should exit the business of running and funding schools."

Again read the article (unless of course you think this is all a devious plot by the Sf Chronicle)


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Posted by collins
a resident of Vista Grande Elementary School
on Oct 21, 2010 at 1:28 pm

I have several comments.

1. To the comment about this being the last time you will vote for Mike Doyle as Mayor, our mayor is not elected, but appointed by the Town Council.
2. The majority of voters in this town voted for Obama in the last election.
3. The majority of voters here are democratics.
4. I have met and spoken with Mayor Doyle at Town and Planning Meetings. He actually went out of his way to introduce himself to me. There are so few residents who ever attend these meetings.
5. As far back as I can trace my American Roots, to Jamestown, the Mayflower,etc., there have been brave men who have fought and died for their country in every war and conflict. I doubt if they ever heard so much partisan rhetoric and hate filled words as ones used in this comment section over the years.
6. Does free speech not apply to our Mayor?

Finally, as the wife and mother of Disabled Veterans, you bet your sweet bippy that I am going to continue to vote for Jerry McNerney!


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Posted by Bob Landy
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 1:37 pm

Mr Mayor, you are truly an asset to our community as you vote with your intellect.


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Posted by C. R. Mudgeon
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 2:08 pm

Personally, I don't care who Mike Doyle supports in our local Congressional race, nor do I care that much if he wants to endorse a candidate publically. He can ally himself with whoever he wants, for better, or worse.

But I am annoyed at the loose charges of "hatefulness" being thrown around, both by Doyle, and by many of the posters here. Perhaps it's the only counter-argument that comes to mind for some folks, but it's still a cheap-shot.

The thing that I get a big kick out of is that if you read McNerney's campaign literature, you have zero idea of what he voted for, nor what positions he has on upcoming issues. The ONLY thing he talks about in his campaign literature is his support for veterans' issues, which was a given, anyway, what with the VA hospital being located in Livermore. He apparently would prefer that all other aspects of his record be kept hidden, no doubt due to the fact that he toes the Pelosi line about 100%.

I also had to laugh that when Joe Biden came out for a McNerney fund-raiser recently, it was basically kept as secret as possible. McNerney knew that Joe would be good for raising some money from the real die-hards, but that otherwise he is wise to keep Joe at arm's length....

Now that's what I call "having the strength of your convictions"...


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Posted by Citizen Paine
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 2:54 pm

So, Mud -- you're in favor of hatefulness, then?

Or don't you see a real difference between an honest political disagreement and an attempted public "shaming" and humiliation? It's the self-righteous indignation that's provoked Mr. Doyle's ire, and I agree with him.

I dunno what's really in that tea -- but it seems to have more of a kool-aid effect.


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Posted by Mr. Creative 1
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 3:09 pm

Hey Mike, I'm a vet too [removed] the fact that we have "Free Speech" in this country and if you're allowed to use your office position to support your causes then you should expect those of us that have elected you to give you our position. First off, Jerry McNerney is a rubber stamp and doesn't represent the majority of the people of this valley. He showed his true colors when he voted in 'Lock Step" with Queen Nancy over so many Socialist bills that will put my kids and grand kids in debt so they will never see the "American Dream". The man's a bum and deserves to be thrown out with the rest of the garbage that is stinking up Washington right now.

David Harmer is "Reagan Conservative" and wants to represent the "will of the people". Isn't that what those of you in political positions are voted into office to do? It's time we take back America..... it's time to get out and vote the bums out so we can get back to the "Right of Center".

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Posted by Diane
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 4:05 pm

Mr. Creative, etc. Again, if you read what the Mayor is saying, he doesn't appear to take issue with those who disagree with his position - he rightfully is taken aback at the hateful demeanor of the messenger. JRM reminded us of the incredibly misinformed and verbally abusive Republican table volunteers a few months back at Farmer's Market. Can we disagree without resorting to verbal abuse? I hope we can.

I haven't served in the armed forces, but I appreciate those who do, including members of my own family who have made the marines and the coast guard their career path. My gratitude isn't doled out based on the position held - all those who serve this country deserve respect and gratitude.



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Posted by bz
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 7:21 pm


First, I appreciate all that Mike has done for our community. He certainly has as much right as anyone to voice his opinion (excepting recently FIRED Juan Williams, I suppose).

Secondly, I can only assume that he and other citizens who are electing to vote for Jerry McNerney have a much different impression of his "REPRESENTING" them as I have. He has demonstrated that he is nothing but a puppet, a follower and certainly NOT a leader! Before the Health care vote, I dedicated two days to call McNerney's office to voice my opinion. Guess he didn't want to hear his constituent's opinions, as I was NEVER able to get through to an answering maching. At that time McNerney was pretending to not have made a decision on which way to vote, so I felt it my obligation as a citizen to voice my concern. Finally, late on the day before the vote, I was able to get the voice mail- BUT the message said it was FULL! My attempts to leave my thoughts "for the record" were to no avail. After the vote (he voted FOR the Health care bill), he commented that the "vast majority of his constituents were calling in support of the bill!" HMMMMMMM!!!! Something is not quite right...Hopefully, we will see Harmer oust the likes of McNerney!! Let your voices be heard- VOTE!!


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Posted by Carol
a resident of Greenbrook Elementary School
on Oct 21, 2010 at 7:40 pm

Wow, cannot believe the ugliness portrayed above.
As far as I am concerned, November 2 cannot get here soon enough so we can be done with the mudslinging and namecalling.
There is a lot of work to be done to reclaim the great status this country once had.


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Posted by Peter
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 9:13 pm

I could care less who you vote for, that's your choice and right, but to allow those beautiful, 75 year old, HEALTHY Redwood trees aside the Vets Hall to be cut down REALLY pisses me off!


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Posted by Jenna
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 9:23 pm

What is happening is that the Tea Partiers are being exposed for what they really are. They assume everyone feels the way they do, when in fact there are more Americans that are in favor of Health Care Reform than are against. Especially here in Danville.

Jerry McNerney has my vote.

My apologies Mr. Doyle for the barbarian behavior you received, the nuts are coming out of the woodwork.....


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Posted by Roark
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 9:41 pm

[removed] McNerney has been an active participant in the madness that has taken over our nation's government. He knew full well that the majority of American's opposed bills such as the Stimulus Package and Obamacare ... yet he voted for them anyway. He has to be held accountable for his actions.


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Posted by Caroline
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 10:06 pm

TPers may have been against bills such as the Stimulus Package and Obamacare, but that does not mean that the majority of Americans opposed it. Although they may be loud, TPers are not the majority in the U.S.


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Posted by Get Off the Cross We Need the Wood
a resident of Danville
on Oct 21, 2010 at 10:54 pm

Mr. Harmer's website mentions his support of Prop 8. I just hope his views on gay couples doesn't rise to the level of nastiness espoused by his father. Knowing the vitriol written by his father, I feel kind of sorry for Mr. Harmer.


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2010 at 9:55 am

Another contradiction in terms:
NcNerney is a Catholic

Not as long he votes pro-abortion


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Posted by Citizen Paine
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2010 at 10:59 am

I watched Mr Harmer's interview with the Comical's editorial staff, who had done a poor job of preparation in my view. It's up on sfgate. He sounded like a standard-issue Friedmanite monetarist economist. He espoused the company line of "cuts" and directly refused to go into any specifics.

Guess what -- the devils and the angels reside in the details he either wouldn't or couldn't share. It's meaningless to spout-off about the theoretical system like this is some introductory Econ class. Indeed, given his writings about abolishing public schools and privatizing social security -- it's downright suspicious. Monetarism is useful to a point (and only so) and fun to debate in theory, but this stuff of the People's business is too important to be left to the pat answers.

His campaign is correct about keeping out of the public eye -- I like him less now than when I didn't know anything about him.


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Posted by Susan
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2010 at 11:45 am

Mike:
Thank you for supporting Jerry Mcnerny. Harmer is scary. Thank you for your years of service to our community.
Susan


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Posted by Bob
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2010 at 3:11 pm

I like what Jenna said.

What is happening is that the Tea Partiers are being exposed for what they really are. They assume everyone feels the way they do, when in fact there are more Americans that are in favor of Health Care Reform than are against. Especially here in Danville.

Jerry McNerney has my vote.

My apologies Mr. Doyle for the barbarian behavior you received, the nuts are coming out of the woodwork.....


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Posted by Bob
a resident of Montair Elementary School
on Oct 22, 2010 at 3:24 pm

If this is what Harmer wants

"So long as the state Constitution mandates free public schools, a voucher system (or refundable tuition tax credit) is the best we can do. To attain quantum leaps in educational quality and opportunity, however, we need to separate school and state entirely. Government should exit the business of running and funding schools."

The poor and the working Mom with 2 children will not receive an education..........
Wasn't Thomas Jefferson in favor of Education for all...................


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Posted by Chet
a resident of Danville
on Oct 22, 2010 at 5:00 pm

Thank you Mike Doyle for your support of Jerry McNerney. You like any thinking voter vote the man not the party. Beyond any doubt Jerry McNerney has done a great job as our rep and deserves our strong support in this election.


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Posted by Claudia
a resident of San Ramon
on Oct 23, 2010 at 9:01 am

"Another contradiction in terms:
NcNerney is a Catholic
Not as long he votes pro-abortion"

Wow! Didn't know the Pope's name is Mary. Since when do YOU decide who is or isn't anything?


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Posted by Coach
a resident of San Ramon
on Oct 23, 2010 at 10:55 am

Harmer will win. Mike D is thin skinned.
The End


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Posted by Chet
a resident of Danville
on Oct 23, 2010 at 1:21 pm

Mary should not be insulting anyone's religion. Just like people should not be insulting our fine Mayor Mike Doyle.


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Posted by TL Nelson
a resident of Danville
on Oct 24, 2010 at 8:57 pm

It is interesting the every piece of campaign literature I have received from McNerney has been an attack on his opponent. This is some of the most extreme negative campaigning I have ever seen and certainly says volumes about McNerney's integrity and character.

Why doesn't McNerney try explaining the merits of his votes for the Stimulus Package and Obamacare instead of trying to run a dishonest sleazy smear campaign? ... because he knows that those votes are not defensible.


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Posted by Julie
a resident of Danville
on Oct 24, 2010 at 9:24 pm

Claudia and Mary's comments got me curious. If you search the Web, it does list McNerney as catholic (congress.org) and if you further search his voting record it does show the many pro-abortion votes he has cast. As a pro-life voter I am glad to know this.


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Posted by Nancy
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 25, 2010 at 11:39 am

Mr. Doyle, I support you 100%. You have given many years of service to our great town and for that, I thank you. I also thank you for your service to protect our country. I, too, support Jerry McNerney, and the fact that you were subjected to vicious comments, threats, etc. is NOT acceptable just because you are a public figure. There is something called decency and democracy, and threats, name-calling, vicious lies, etc. have no place in a civil world. I drove all the way out to Tracy on Saturday evening in the rain to hear the 3 candidates for Congress present their ideas. I listened thoughtfully as the moderator continued to ask the public to respect each other's opinions, to let the candidates speak, and to refrain from childish and ridiculous outbursts. I can tell you without hesitation that Harmer's supporters were not able to abide by these simple rules and made probably the same insidious, vicious comments throughout the evening that you, Mr. Doyle, have had to receive. They even "planted" a women who cackled out loud every time Mr. McNerney tried to speak. No problem, the moderator just reset the clock while we all witnessed this disgusting behavior. I was embarassed for them, and I wish you did not have to tolerate such childish behavior from so called adults. I also have never seen such a slimy candidate for a public office as Harmer. I was and am proud to be a McNerney supporter. ANYONE who attended that debate would have had the same experience. God bless you Mr. Doyle and I hope you will continue to support our wonderful town of Danville with your service to our community.


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Posted by cardinal
a resident of Diablo
on Oct 25, 2010 at 12:58 pm

Julie, Claudia and Mary: nobody, but NObody is "pro-abortion."

Please repurse your matchbook.


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Posted by jrm
a resident of Vista Grande Elementary School
on Oct 25, 2010 at 1:20 pm

jrm is a registered user.

Thank You Mr. Doyle...for your service to our community and for speaking out about the tactics employed by the Harmer supporters. Enough is enough, I saw a video of the Tracy debate last Friday night and I assure you the inappropriate disruptions orchestrated by Harmer's camp would NOT BE TOLERATED IN A MIDDLE SCHOOL DEBATE CLUB.
I can't imagine grown adults behaving in that manner.


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Posted by George
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 25, 2010 at 3:06 pm

[removed] Harry Reid's supported the NRA and gun ownership rights for many years and I wouldn't vote for him under any circumstances if I lived in NV. As a proud vet, neither would I vote for a candidate who supports Obamacare, bailouts, cap & tax... or any other of the programs that our tyrannical leaders have crammed down our collective throats against our wishes. Single issue voters get what they deserve... crappy leaders. See you at the polls... and see ya later, Jerry.


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Posted by 1 who cares
a resident of Danville
on Oct 25, 2010 at 4:07 pm

i find it interesting that we have another council member that will often bristle at ideas that are counter too his own! Where does this lack of leadership and professionalism come from? Why do whese tiny town officials think they are any better than the people they are SUPPOSED to represent?


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Posted by Chet
a resident of Danville
on Oct 25, 2010 at 4:12 pm

Mike Doyle is supporting Jerry McNerney because he has been a great Congressman for us all. Even though Doyle is a Republican he is voting for a Democrat as Mike like many smart voters does not just vote the party line. Mike should not be called names like sell-out and be under personal attack for doing the right thing. Mike is not alone as many elected officials are making the same decision as Mike and many of them are Republican and are supporting and voting for Jerry McNerney.


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Posted by CW
a resident of Danville
on Oct 26, 2010 at 9:55 am

I am very disappointed that our mayor, who "says" he's a Republican could vote for a Democrat! Anyone with any intelligence can see that the Democrats are ruining our country with their Cap & Trade, Bailouts, Obamacare; (that took over $500M from Medicare, which hurts our elders), Stimulus;(that didn't stimulate anything), and put our country in such debt that our grandchildren will have to pay it off, if possible! This housing crisis we're in started with the Democrats during the Carter administration and continued with Clinton, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank....ALL DEMOCRATS! We have them to thank for people losing their homes and our homes losing their values today!
McNerney voted for Obamacare. Obamacare is more than healthccare folks! It will be taking our freedom as well. Are you aware that they will have full access to your checking accounts and can take your money if they want? It's in the healthcare bill. Read it!


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Posted by CW
a resident of Danville
on Oct 26, 2010 at 10:09 am

By the way, Tea Party people ARE NOT RADICALS! I am one and I can assure you they are the most peaceful people you could ever meet! They are just fed up with this government and standing up for their rights! In Washington when they demonstrated they left no mess behind! They cleaned up after themselves because they have great respect for this country.
Those who love Obama and his government must like the idea of living under tyranny and you must also like going to work everyday and "sharing" your income with those who don't want to get off their butts to work! I DON'T!!
Also, you cannot believe everything you hear in the political ads on television. Much of it is lies! Democrats are desperate and will say anything to get elected!


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Posted by eloise
a resident of Danville
on Oct 26, 2010 at 12:55 pm

I want to thank Mike Doyle for his service to our country and our town. I also thank him for wrting a letter that opened up the lines of communication. That is what America is about. It is also abourt the right to vote for your candidate of choice, regardless of party membership. What I miss, is the opportunity for discussion of differing opinions without feeling the need to use capital letters to get a point across. Stop the yelling, and start being a bit more polite. ("NOT RADICALS!"...oh, my, really?)


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Posted by Dick (33yr resident)
a resident of San Ramon Valley High School
on Oct 26, 2010 at 3:22 pm

I for one appreciate our Mayor indicating that NOW is the time for reaching across the "aisle", for less devisive politics as seems to be the norm. While I don't always agree with Mike, I very much like that he represents very well a significant portion of Old Danville!


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Posted by cardinal
a resident of Diablo
on Oct 26, 2010 at 5:23 pm

CW doth protest too much, methinks, and with a few too many exclamation points.

In my mind's ear, I hear Richard Nixon exclaiming "I am not a crook!" and Christine O'Donnell pleading "I'm not a witch -- I'm you!"

Scary stuff, this Hallowe'en season!


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Posted by Concerned
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 26, 2010 at 6:52 pm

Bad Doyle--no re-election!


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Posted by Chet
a resident of Danville
on Oct 26, 2010 at 7:01 pm

I see that CW and others are full of hate for the correct decision Mike Doyle is making to vote for and support the election of Jerry McNerney. Mike has our country and area in mind when he makes his selection of Jerry McNerney. Jerry has been good for Danville and good for our country. Mike is not by any means forced to only support Republicans even though Mike is a long term Republican. We do not live in tyranny and one of the reasons is people like Mike Doyle and Jerry Mcnerney.


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Posted by Citizen Paine
a resident of Danville
on Oct 27, 2010 at 10:10 am

Hey, Mr. Mayor and others -- I have a number of McNerney yard signs, with more available from the campaign. As indicated, I am in Dandyville, and pretty centrally located.

Email me with the number you need, and I will respond with where you can pick them up: mcnerneysigns@gmail.com


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Posted by Ex-Doyle Supporter
a resident of Danville
on Nov 3, 2010 at 5:53 pm

The election is over, and McNerney has a slim lead with several thousand ballots yet to be counted. I have always liked Mike Doyle. The issue here is the mentality of supporting candidates who "bring home the bacon". Most Republicans want fewer earmarks, and more attention to reducing our nation's $13.5 trillion debt. If Doyle runs again, I'll certainly be working for his defeat.


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