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Are public meetings too late for community impact?

Original post made by CDSI Research on Nov 13, 2011

Dear Editor,

This morning news service researchers circulated a study of public meetings in Contra Costa County that provided clear evidence that government decisions are fully documented and decided before such meetings. Using many examples including recent redistricting of the county, researchers' discovery of documentation repeatedly defined decisions brought to public meetings for "rubber stamp" approvals.

As part of a feature on how to engage and communicate with governments, news service researchers pointed to the need by residents, neighborhoods and communities to gain direct meetings with their elected officials very early in consideration of issues to insure that their interests and positions are considered in the final decisions brought to public meetings for approval. "If it is on a public meeting agenda it is too late to change the decision."

As you consider publication of a story on this decision process, you might define how this contrasts with various public meeting laws and requirements. "Is the public served when public government meetings only exist for public approval of already-made decisions?"

Great subject?

As a CDSI Research courtesy to media editors

Comments (8)

Posted by Informed resident, a resident of another community
on Nov 13, 2011 at 10:55 am

Hal,

You clearly fail to comprehend public meeting law. Just because you don't agree with established rules and practices which public agencies and public officials must follow doesn't mean that decisions have been "already-made" or are rubber stamped.

Try being productive rather than trying to re-invent the wheel, just because it does not suit your vision of what is important. Look in the mirror; perhaps it is not about the issue, maybe it is more about the individual. Continuing with nothing but critisism about anything and everything related to the County lost it's lustre a long time ago.


Posted by [exposure], a resident of another community
on Nov 13, 2011 at 12:34 pm

Dear Editor,

As campaigns enlist commentators to attack comments on your forum that provide study references and news services research, including BANG, such campaign strategies become apparent to your readers as they discuss, in private exchanges, the volume of such campaign commentary appearing on the Express Forum. The result is exposure of such campaign commentary without any study resources to validate such defamation as Swift-Boating.

We are seeing district 2 and 3 campaigns ramping their swift-boating and avoiding any references that will allow your readers to qualify such campaign dogma. It remains your opportunity to provide fair and balanced presentation of the issues of these campaigns including the histories of the candidates to your readers so they are more informed voters. It is more an opportunity to actually validate the interests of our elected officials to have direct conversations with residents, neighborhoods and community groups to better understand the will and interests of those communities such officials serve.

In does seem quite simple to ask elected officials about their meetings with such groups and to publish the advantages of such direct, interactive discussions early in the considerations of community issues.


Posted by Informed resident, a resident of another community
on Nov 13, 2011 at 8:51 pm

Hal {exposure},

There you go again, the minute someone disagrees with you, you cry foul! Swift boating? How many posts have you used that in today? C'mon be a little more original.

I think you need to study up a little bit on what constitutes defamation. Disagreeing with you or negating your odd opinions doesn't quite qualify. Your "private exchanges" are not really helping you sort fact from fiction, as they are helping you build false conspiracy theories.

I am at a loss as why you believe being challenge is campaign related? That makes little sense to someone concerned about community issues in general. Postings usually have better results when the content gets right to the point. I don't see that taking place in the volley of innuendo that you constantly post. Let's keep things factual, shall we?


Posted by [focusing the discussion], a resident of another community
on Nov 13, 2011 at 9:26 pm

Dear Editor,

This exchange asks you to consider a story on the process of public decisions by governments in Contra Costa County. Through interviews with numerous elected officials and staffs, news service researchers discovered such elected officials want to know early in consideration of community issues the will and interests of community and neighborhood groups via direct meetings with such group representatives. It was those elected officials that suggested public meetings tend to be too late in the process because various governmental departments and agencies have already provided the basis of decision and most elected officials are ready to agreed with such recommendations. The public meetings become more a matter of delivering the decision rather than any form of interactive community discussion and mitigation.

That is the process according to such interviews and it is your story to validate in our region among elected and appointed officials.


Posted by jjjj, a resident of Alamo
on Nov 14, 2011 at 8:39 am

informed.. you are right on congrat... this old fool can not stand to be challenged nor can he provide any proof of what he states as fact.thanks for your posts.


Posted by oh!riley, a resident of Alamo
on Nov 14, 2011 at 8:57 am

What is CDSI Research? I keep seeing it pop up all over this forum but I'm unfamiliar with it.


Posted by Informed resident, a resident of another community
on Nov 14, 2011 at 10:21 am

oh!riley,

It appears that CDSI Research is Hal's way of making himself look big. It is the same reaction you get from a cat when it is spooked.

I imagine he is trying to lend crediblity to his assumptions. Personally I don't think anyone buys what he is selling.


Posted by Dickita P, a resident of Alamo
on Nov 16, 2011 at 6:06 pm

oh!riley, CDSI Research helped get man to the moon


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