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Brown urges voters to pass Prop. 30 tax measure, but poll shows it's failing

Original post made on Nov 4, 2012

Gov. Jerry Brown, seeking to promote his Proposition 30 tax initiative, told a San Francisco audience Thursday that, "the California
dream is still vibrant," but said the tax increase is needed to keep it that way.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, November 2, 2012, 12:55 PM

Comments (16)

Posted by 28IF, a resident of Danville
on Nov 4, 2012 at 12:36 am

Here is what happened the last time we raised taxes for schools. All the $ went to make up the gap for the under funded teachers union pension fund. Nada for the students. Go Figure. This is from the Wall Street Journal btw.
But Democrats in the legislature won't lower tax rates because they love the revenue windfalls they get when times are good and they can boost spending.
Then when markets crash, they can cry havoc and lobby for still-higher taxes. That's what the teachers unions did as recently as 2008, claiming that cuts that would have merely returned education spending to pre-bubble levels would cripple schools. Caving to the union pressure, a handful of Republican legislators in 2009 walked Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's plank and voted for a $13 billion sales and income tax increase. Schools received less money over the next two years anyway— while spending on entitlements and union retirement benefits grew.


Posted by Rick Pshaw, a resident of Danville
on Nov 4, 2012 at 1:50 pm

Vote smart. Starve the beast. It's the only way to bring it under control.


Posted by jrm, a resident of Vista Grande Elementary School
on Nov 4, 2012 at 7:48 pm

Rickshaw...I agree with you....for once !!


Posted by Douglas, a resident of Blackhawk
on Nov 5, 2012 at 7:38 am

I really want to see 30, 38, A & D go down in flames!!! The unions have a chokehold on this state and it is time to break them! By the way, the misleading advertising for the prop is disgusting. It is partially being funded by the nurses union (for education - really?!) and the nurses were just striking again. When are Californias going to wake up and smell the coffee?


Posted by Farmer Dave, a resident of another community
on Nov 5, 2012 at 7:57 am

Farmer Dave is a registered user.

Hey, Danville Express:

"The latest Field Poll, which was released Thursday, shows 48 percent of a sample of likely voters in favor of the measure, 38 percent against and 14 percent undecided."

but your headline says

"poll shows it's failing".

Which is it?


Posted by MO, a resident of Danville
on Nov 5, 2012 at 12:27 pm

Jerry Brown is using our kids as bait to squeeze more money out of us.
A big NO to this latest political blackmail scheme.


Posted by Citizen Paine, a resident of Danville
on Nov 5, 2012 at 3:17 pm

Wow -- whodathunk that out-of-state billionaires would so hate California's schoolchildren that they would try to anonymously invest $11 Million -- not to aid education, but just to hurt the chances of Prop 30, which DOES aid education.

Nasty bunch, those billionaires. Web Link But at least they have the good sense to be ashamed of what they're doing, and are trying to stay hidden.


Posted by Douglas, a resident of Blackhawk
on Nov 5, 2012 at 3:33 pm

Wow -- it is sad to see such uneducated people who think throwing money at the problem is the solution. I hope 30 goes down in flames and appreciate all who have put money in to help defeat it!


Posted by Sylence Dugood, a resident of Danville
on Nov 5, 2012 at 10:45 pm

I think we are focusing our attentions on too little a fish. The unions that we traditionally target our misplaced disgust at for shaking us down for more every year ARE THE WRONG ONES. My fellow Americans, there is a greater evil forcing us to take nearly every last penny out of our pockets just to fund their seeming every whim, their gross operational inefficiencies and most despairingly, their egotistically inflated, cries for high salaries and protected retirements with generous healthcare plans. We are not afforded such luxuries, why should such a select group of individuals be afforded such benefits at our expense! Who and where may this evil be found? I'll tell you.

Yes, my fellow Americans, join me in starving the Beast. You know this Beast as the NFL Players Union, The NHL Players Union, The NBA Players Union and the particularly nasty MLB Players Union.

Need proof of my words? Just watch what happens to our beloved Giants this off-season. One Angel Pagan, buoyed by his union reps (ie angels of darkness) and his agent (arch angel of darkness) will command $15MM for 4 years or more from some heartless dictatorship in another realm (eg Cincinnati, Philadelphia). I for one want to go back to the days before Catfish Hunter. Yes, back to the days when these 'bargaining unit' employees had to earn an honest day's pay (during the season) and then sell insurance in the off-season to make ends meet. To my earlier point, what's a $60k teacher and $120k police officer to a $60MM center fielder? Small fish, I tell you. Want to be even more angered? Some work only 16 days a year. A few more if they perform well. Some perhaps work 162 days a year but tend to stand around on the job during most of their work-day. At best, they swing lumber, like the rest of us, maybe only 4-5 times a workday. FOR THIS, they get a retirement fairly early in life? I SAY NO!

Help me, my fellow Americans. It's your money and mine that generally feeds the Beast's insatiable appetite. I have season tickets to three (out of four) of these Devilish institutions. It's only a matter of time before I will be forced to give up one of them and that, my friends and neighbors, is simply unAmerican.


Posted by Linda, a resident of San Ramon
on Nov 6, 2012 at 6:47 am

Jerry Brown is a liar as are most politicians. Schools do not need more money. They need to budget wisely. I refuse to give another dime to educate the lazy and illegals. In Redwood City, and throughout the state, pregnant girls get gov checks while their parents get $1000 per "claimed" dependent on their alternative tax ID #. No one checks. Families brag about checks often $10,000.00. I'm putting arsenic in the gravy train today----


Posted by Linda, a resident of San Ramon
on Nov 6, 2012 at 6:47 am

Jerry Brown is a liar as are most politicians. Schools do not need more money. They need to budget wisely. I refuse to give another dime to educate the lazy and illegals. In Redwood City, and throughout the state, pregnant girls get gov checks while their parents get $1000 per "claimed" dependent on their alternative tax ID #. No one checks. Families brag about checks often $10,000.00. I'm putting arsenic in the gravy train today----


Posted by Julia, a resident of Alamo
on Nov 6, 2012 at 9:27 am

Thank God some of us are waking up.

Take that Mr. Brown...yes your tax the fools plan is failing.

I love the new motto..."Starve the Beast, it's the only way to get it under control"

Citizen Paine...wake up and breathe...

Yes this is your friend???? Julia Pardini from Alamo


Posted by Citizen Paine, a resident of Danville
on Nov 6, 2012 at 9:50 am

Why, thanks, Julia -- don't mind if I do breathe.

BTW, I just got back from canceling the effect of your vote on many, many ballot items. Is this a great country, or what?


Posted by Rick Pshaw, a resident of Danville
on Nov 6, 2012 at 11:42 am

Dear Citizen Paine,

Actually Julia cancelled all your votes out. Sort of makes a difference as to which myopic view one takes...

And it is a great country but will be greater still with a change of president.


Posted by Citizen Paine, a resident of Danville
on Nov 6, 2012 at 3:04 pm

You know, Rick, I've been sitting here wracking my brain, trying to come up with a snappy comeback, but I just come up empty.

Maybe by tomorrow morning I'll be able to think of SOMEthing.


Posted by Caroline, a resident of Danville
on Nov 7, 2012 at 12:03 pm

Glad to see that Prop 30 passed! Brings hope knowing that the majority of California voters recognize the value of educating our children.


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