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Scoping session on Norris Canyon HOV ramp held March 13

Original post made on Mar 4, 2013

Caltrans and the Contra Costa Transportation Authority (CCTA) will hold a public scoping meeting on proposed on- and off-ramps at Norris Crow Canyon Road on Wednesday, March 13. The hotly contested ramps would connect to the high occupancy vehicle lanes along the center divider of Interstate 680. The meeting is part of the initial activities conducted before a draft environmental impact report is prepared.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, March 4, 2013, 4:17 PM

Comments (5)

Posted by Derek, a resident of Danville
on Mar 4, 2013 at 6:59 pm

What a scam, and what a horrendous waste of tax dollars. Crow is 1/4 north; Bollinger 3/4 mile south. This "project" needs a bullet to the head before it ever gets off the ground.
Apparently our powers that be aren't happy with simply denuding the free shoulders into a barren wasteland.


Posted by Derek, a resident of Danville
on Mar 5, 2013 at 7:23 pm

Oops - must proof read, must proof read!
That should say "freeway shoulders".


Posted by C. R. Mudgeon, a resident of Danville
on Mar 12, 2013 at 11:56 am

This does seem like a ridiculous waste of $100 million. For one thing, that seems like a huge amount. But even if it was $10 million, it would seem like a waste of money to me.

It sounds like the main intent is to have a direct feeder to the HOV lanes that are in the middle of the freeway. Perhaps this leads to them being more expensive than reqular, "from the side" entry and exit ramps.

As stated above, what exactly is so difficult about using the existing Crow Canyon or Bollinger Canyon exits? And even with rush hour traffic (such as the Bollinger exit experiences from Bishop Ranch traffic, Chevron traffic, etc.), this seems like a solution in search of a problem.

My guess is that there are federal highway funds "available", and so Cal Trans and others are trying to figure out a way to glom onto them, whether really needed or not. Federal highway funds being largely "other peoples' money" (not totally, but in large part).

Even with that being the situation, surely there are better uses for the funds, to do something else that is interstate-related.

I can think of one thing immediately: on I-680 southbound out of Walnut Creek (and heading towards Alamo), the carpool lane starts up a bit too far south, so that traffic is already backed up by the loss of a regular lane, prior to the carpool lane starting up. There is actually already room in the middle to start the carpool lane earlier, while still retaining a center shoulder.

(Actually, I'd prefer that carpool lanes all be made regular lanes. but that's another story, and one that isn't too likely....)


Posted by Pedal Power, a resident of Danville
on Mar 12, 2013 at 6:35 pm

I was a fan of carpool lanes until they extended the evening shut off time on 680 from 6 to 7 pm. And I observed that this extended the congestion by one hour. I used to watch for the traffic freeing up then leave work around 6:15. Now I have to wait until after 7 for reduced traffic or spend longer commuting. No longer a fan.

The Fremont 680 southbound HOV lane is a mess - the fancy on/off lanes mean it takes up two lanes to give the benefit of one. Idiotic.


Posted by Derek, a resident of Danville
on Mar 14, 2013 at 11:19 am

You're right; it just doesn't work at all. With Danville having a nice large parking area where Sycamore hits 680, it is a shame there aren't more buses for the large south bay employers. It seems to work well for Genentech in So. San Francisco.


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