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Contra Costans are watching Alamo's MAC results!!

Original post made by Community courtesy on Jun 24, 2009

Dear Dolores,

Contra Costans are becoming more one community with the advent of e-exchanges. This morning, Kensington, El Sobrante, Byron, Bay Point and those yet to be MACs such as Alamo and Dougherty Valley were having active discussions of what is possible for a CCC proscibed MAC?

Communities and neighborhoods are reviewing MAC's purpose and advantages in each current community designated to be served by a MAC.
"would we be better served by a city council, a special district and many more questions that various resident counsel throughout Contra Costa are answering in precise summary" said a Byron MAC supporter.

Former MAC members and supporters have clearly defined the lack of community service provided by current CCC-MAC policy and celebrate the CCC-BOS' review of current policies authorized at yesterday's CCC-BOS meeting. Communities are ready to sit with CCC-BOS' internal committee and explain the failure since MAC reconstitution in June 2oo6.

This seems to be a major opportunity for supervisors to truly be in service to communities, but time will tell.

Hal, as a community courtesy to the ad hoc community committee, Diablo Vista (Alamo) region community of neighborhoods

Comments (9)

Posted by Informed Resident, a resident of another community
on Jun 25, 2009 at 1:29 am

I wonder if you will be the first or last to discovery that a MAC is not a substitute for a City or a Special District. It cannot be something it is not intended to be. Both Cities and Special Districts are independant from the County. MAC's are not.

Hal, you are right with two things; Some education needs to take place and I think "you" would be better served by a city council. Well sort of. First you either would have had to pass a few votes and second you would have to actually finance cityhood or a special district. Neither comes without finanical accountablity, fiscal revenue and a strict muster.

A simple question. If the MAC's were dissolved, which could be done at any time, then what are you left with? Hint; ask your County Supervisor- You don't get to pick another form of government. So do you really wish to eliminate this additional voice? So what is it you seek? My read is that you would eventually be dissatisfied with any form local government. But hey, that is just my opinion based on all of your posts. I certainly could be wrong.

Posted by Community courtesy, a resident of another community
on Jun 25, 2009 at 8:12 am

Dear Dolores,

A personal response to Informed Resident was sent via your e-mail for forwarding.

For your readers: A Municipal Advisory Council, by State specification and as formed in many counties, is a valid voice for a region or community in consolidated presentation of the will and interests of the residents and their neighborhoods to county departments and the board of supervisors. In several interviews by counsel's analysts, MAC members in other counties illustrated their ability to formalize residents' positions as decision guidance for county departments and supervisors. More importantly, those MAC members discussed the trust and respect they are provided by county departments and supervisors.

The title MAC is misplaced in Contra Costa County because policy makes these groups outbound voices for supervisor's position, policy and decisions in what is typically called a community advisory committee. Corporations and governments use such committees to advise communities on their actions and gather the responses from residents in public hearings. There is no intention that such committees would be the voice of a community.

In May 2006, when district 3's supervisor authored the reconstitution of MACs to surrogate committees as volunteer extensions of district staff, neighborhoods' counsel detailed the logical impact and progression to destruction of MAC's relationships with their communities and regions. It is now not a question of dissolution of CCC-MACs because that has happened in fact as a function of county MAC policies.

Hal, as a community courtesy

Posted by Community courtesy, a resident of another community
on Jun 25, 2009 at 7:21 pm

Dear Readers,

As Gina C. Allen, Publisher, TDW, continues her role as Informed Resident, you must know that Embarcadero Publishing is committed to blind support of Contra Costa aggregated politics. This is campaign jargon aimed at personal attack and condescending destruction of any public commentary that is the will and interests of our region's residents.

If you wish contact with your neighborhoods, simply talk to your neighbors. Access to community discussion and e-exchanges will follow and you will be more a part of our real community as a result.

And everyone is welcome,

Hal, as a community courtesy

Posted by Informed Resident, a resident of another community
on Jun 29, 2009 at 12:32 pm


It is simple; You are wrong on all accounts.

Where do you come up with all of this nonsense?


Posted by Halamo, a resident of another community
on Jun 29, 2009 at 4:50 pm

Dolores, how wonderful to see FORUM pseudonyms awake at this time of day (or is it DAZE).

During the past two plus years of TDW's Forum, nonsense has become the GROSS Domestic Product of many pseudonyms and I have enjoyed the escape from reality in dealing with the many thoughtless, condescensing and defamatory attacks on all manner of commentators.

I hope you had an opportunity to read the Reuter's discussion of MALLS and Shopping Centers concerning their decline. In this forum, we are discussing how to reverse the decline of our business district and how to provide the entire business district's corporations, investors, management and its many residents a common voice in the economic development of their district. Neighborhoods, in their discussions with the district investors and developers have focused on demand additions to the district. There are many more good ideas that have not been expressed by a very savvy, intelligent citizenry.

Even Informed Resident may prove herself exceptional and informed. Maybe that is too much to expect without Alamo Ron's help, but we can expect a smile and good ol' high school try, Right?

Halamo, and all the gang down @ODDs, a Saloon for Fools

Posted by Informed Resident, a resident of another community
on Jun 29, 2009 at 7:47 pm

The only "help" I am getting is from you Hal. The sad part is that you don't even realize it.

It would be hypocrisy for you to make personal attacks in the very same post where you accuse me of the same wouldn't it? But you did it anyway. How about these fine examples that you so eloquently offered up;

"how wonderful to see FORUM pseudonyms awake at this time of day (or is it DAZE)."

"...nonsense has become the GROSS Domestic Product of many pseudonyms"

"Maybe that is too much to expect without Alamo Ron's help,..."

Are you making allowances just for yourself? You don't play very nice but apparently others have to?
You offer up offensive commentary but then when someone pushes back just a bit, you go running off like a small child, tattling to the teacher. Grow up Hal.

Posted by Halamo, a resident of another community
on Jun 29, 2009 at 10:03 pm

[Post removed due to excessive and/or repetitive post by same poster]

Posted by Community courtesy, a resident of another community
on Jun 29, 2009 at 10:20 pm

Dear Dolores,

Per a more detailed notice to you today, neighborhoods have been informed by CCC-BOS Internal Operations Committee that they will not entertain advisory from communities with current MACs or communities threatened with MAC formation. As a result, neighborhoods counsel has been requested to proceed with submission of formal requests for review of CCC-MAC policies by CCC Grand Jury. Joining Alamo and Dougherty Valley community of neighborhoods are several communities with current MACs in districts 3, 4, and 5.

That should focus all commentary on the issue of CCC-MAC policies and how MACs should effect voice for their communities and regions.

Let's move on,

Hal, as a community courtesy

Posted by Informed Resident, a resident of another community
on Jun 29, 2009 at 10:50 pm

Seriously, now you are casting negative dispersions on "when"' I post? Has that somehow become important or just another attempt at distraction.

Speaking of those distractions, when did "defamously" become an actual word? (It's OK that you made it up-I know what you meant).

I've tried to post facts which you conveniently twist into contempt at the very instant that you deflect your own actions on to others. It's really not that clever.

Very enchanting indeed. But not very effective.

Let's get back to the topic, it is much more interesting.

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