Original post made
by Rick Pshaw, Danville,
on Dec 10, 2013
It's still happening. Where have you been?
Hey Mike and Rick - what color is the sky on your planet, anyway? I'd be interested in visiting some time. It seems like it'd be such a relief to get away from science, facts and reality and just make up stuff to exchange with people who share my delusions and make myself feel better. Understanding stuff like the difference between signal and noise, weather and climate is just such hard work, as you obviously understand.
Back here on Earth, the data from numerous sources continues to pile up, and no credible scientific theory other than AGW correlates with the facts.
They will remember it again when the waves are lapping at their front door steps.
You're right! I just went outside and it's definitely getting warmer.
Looks like my comment wasn't clear enough because it's been interpreted two different ways. Of course GLOBAL warming is occurring. How many scientific studies, pictures of dissipating ice caps, record-breaking typhoons, etc. does it take! Climate is a complex system and just because its been colder somewhere doesn't mean its not warmer overall. Climate change will undoubtedly manifest itself in numerous ways, including ways that will be problematic for both humans specifically and the biosphere in general.
Mike, and Huh?:
I keep telling you guys to remember Derek's first rule of physics:
It is ALWAYS cool when your head is buried in the sand.
For Ricky's sake he better hope it is not a sand dune where his neighborhood used to be.
Rick can't see Russia from his usual vantage, but he has a pretty good view of the Isles of Langerhans.
@Mike: You need to set your sarcasm recognition filter a bit higher.
@Dave : Smithsonian Magazine December 2013 P20:
"The North Pole is losing about 30,000 square miles of sea ice per year. But at the South Pole, the sea ice has been growing, hitting a 35-year record of 19,000,000 square miles."
I don't think the water will be lapping at my front door anytime soon.
To be real clear, global warming is myth and Al Gore is a mirthful myth-maker.
So put another log on the fire
Cook me up some bacon & some beans
Go out to the car & change the tire
Wash my socks & sew my old blue jeans
Come on baby you can fill my pipe & then go fetch my slippers
And boil me up another pot of tea
Then put another log on the fire babe
And come & tell me why you're leaving me. Web Link
Yeah, Rick - all those scientists are sitting around their conspiracy meetings getting fat off their grant money and yocking it up at how they've managed to pull the wool over the eyes of anyone who isn't clued into the "real" truth by Fox News, right?
I know - call me a sucker, but I'll take the analysis of hundreds of scientists over the self-serving propaganda dished out by the denial machine for the gullibles among us who will smugly insist that that part of science is a "myth."
By the way - do you have any idea what the significance of that ice data is?
(Didn't think so. But smugly stating a fact and then saying "See!" is so much easier than actual science, isn't it?)
LA Times - today
"Snow closes roads in Israel, is a source of wonder in Cairo."
Yeh, I know. The libs will say that this kind of weather is a result of global warming.
Dear Rick: it's not libs, it's EVERYbody who cares, including your own unborn offspring, generations hence.
WHAT are you going to say to them, when they ask you "how could you ignore such an overwhelmingly credible scientific certainty, to our detriment?" -- that you thought weather and climate were the same thing?
Yeah, but drip - it's only folks who live in the right wing bubble, fed nonsense by the Fox/Koch propaganda machine 24/7 who are able to maintain the delusion that all those scientists are either fools or corrupt. Since that propaganda machine exists to serve the short-term interests of wealthy corporations the gullibles who feed off of it are trained to believe six impossible things before breakfast every day. And if it's cold somewhere in the world at any point in time - hey: That's Proof that global warming is a Hoax! Logical, right? Yes, it's stupid, but it's logical, in the same way that believing that rooster crowing causes the sun to rise is "logical."
Not all conservatives are gullibles, but pretty much all of the gullibles are right wingers. Rick Pshaw is a charter member of the gullibles. And to maintain his membership he has to believe that science is a "liberal hoax."
My membership card says that the Russian ship MV Akademik Shokalskiy has encountered so much ICE that three large icebreakers were unable to effect a rescue. Where on earth is all that ICE coming from if the world is getting warmer?
Maybe the scientists really are corrupt - the "propaganda machine" aka "the media" certainly is...
I went outside this morning.
It was chilly -- I shivered.
This global warming stuff is just a hoax, I tells ya.
"Millions in Northeast Blasted With Major Snowstorm"
Ricky: where you've stuck your fevered head, the temp is always a moist 101 degrees. Give it a rest. Your position makes you look stupid.
The field temperature for the 49ers - Packers game is predicted to be 2 degrees on Sunday (no wind chill).
And there are still a few libs who believe in global warming and Al Gore...
Rick's position is simple: if it's ever cold, anywhere in the world, at any point in time, that proves that global warming is, as he has been instructed to believe, a "hoax." He will live out his years in his tiny world of smug and belligerent ignorance, continuously reassured by the messengers hired by his masters that he is "savvy" and "skeptical" while they laugh at him behind his back for his gullibility and inability to see the obvious ways in which he is being manipulated.
It's interesting that the messenger is being attacked but not the message...
Here's some more frozen food for thought (headlines from the Drudge website):
MINNESOTA 'WORST' DEEP FREEZE IN 20 YEARS...
WINDCHILLS MAY HIT -50°
BLAST: UP TO 30" OF SNOW IN NEW ENGLAND...
'EXPOSED SKIN FREEZES IN 15 MINS'...
NYC MAYOR: 'TOO COLD FOR SCHOOL'...
AMERICANS SPENT $7.45 BILLION FIGHTING 'GLOBAL WARMING'
MSNBC HOST COMPLAINS OF 'SNOW TROLLING'...
NOW ANTARTIC RESCUE SHIP STUCK IN ICE...
Absolutely, Rick. Repeating things that don't actually prove your point makes your argument stronger, right?
Seriously, if you delivered a "message" that made the slightest bit of sense, or suggested that you had even the tiniest inkling of what global warming theory predicts so as to understand if anything you said actually had any relevance to that science, attacking that "message" would be other than pointless. But you don't. You just repeat references to it being cold somewhere, someday, as if global warming had erased the concept of "weather," and then you stand back and announce "See!" like a proud four year old. Your insistence that the Drudge headlines you cite actually are significant in some way simply demonstrates a truly juvenile failure to recognize what you don't understand.
Your ignorance is profitable to some; your gullibility is an embarrassment to all.
I'm sorry: which message are you trying to convey: that you are the last man on earth who still confuses weather with climate, or this: Web Link
Still hittin' on the messenger, I see.
Here's the message: "Global warming is a myth."
Hit on that.
Wow, four weeks later and this thread is still going?
You know Rick, there are people born into this world every day with severe impediments. Autism, Down Syndrome, various types of palsy, oxygen deprivation during birth. But these people and their parents do their best with what they have each and every day.
Then there are the Pshaw's of the world. Apparently - though this is far from certain - you were not born with such a deficit (Just that one where the big person in the sky was handing down common sense and you got out of line).
It seems you don't just possess willful ignorance. You actually get out of bed and celebrate it every single day. You live your ignorance to the fullest, reveling in Faux Nuus talking points, playing with your assault weapons, failing to even go outside and look at what's going on. Not just with our local weather, not only with the southwest part of our country, but all over the planet on every single continent.
Maybe it's best that Mike, Dave, Drip, Ty, Huh, and I don't keep pushing it. I fear what might happen if one day reality did actually pay you a visit. Perhaps you would run amuck with one of your deadly toys in a shopping mall or school. Maybe it's best if we all stop feeding trolls and let them be content in their beliefs, no matter how utterly stupid or uninformed they might be.
You lose again.
Ty - thanks for the video link. I do disagree with the author on his assessment of column A - whereby taking action results in excessive cost and potential economic collapse. The cost implied in that column is in reality a job creator and generates economic growth (quite simply), so it's not that bad an option, IMO. We've done worse (e.g. "shovel-ready" projects), which appears to have only benefited Caltrans and their cronies, at least where I live.
Check out Australia - more record high temps there, and last I looked, Australia was still part of the globe Web Link)
And while "weather" still exists, even the cold spells we do have are less frequent and just not as cold as the ones back before we started the slow global simmer: Web Link
Of course, that won't matter to Ol' Rick. He's been instructed to ignore data, science, and reality in general, and just repeat what his masters at Fox News instruct him to believe. Ah, the gullibles...