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Plan Bay Area announces regional open house meetings

Original post made on Mar 28, 2013

A collaborative effort several regional governing boards, Plan Bay Area plan aims to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles while accommodating housing growth "without compromising local control of land-use decisions."

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, March 28, 2013, 11:43 AM

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Posted by Rick Pshaw
a resident of Danville
on Mar 28, 2013 at 4:29 pm

What BS.


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Posted by Bill
a resident of Danville
on Mar 29, 2013 at 6:37 am

When you read things like, several regional governing boards, this means those non-elected non-profit groups that feed off of taxpayers dollars while believing they have this view and plan that is better than anything you could come up with because they are smarter and know what you need. This is ABAG, Bay Area Air Quality Management District (the fireplace police), Bay Conservation and Development Commission and the Metropolitan Transportation Commission. The community of Corte Madera had the insight and courage to leave ABAG for example as they desired to have local control over their city and not be mandated to conform to the grand vision of, "One Bay Area". Citizens of Danville can opt our of this insanity or stay and pay big bucks to the toads that will tell you exactly what you need to do and how to do it. Remember they know better and are smarter than you.


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Posted by Dee
a resident of Danville
on Mar 29, 2013 at 7:00 am

These meetings are rigged. If you show up and try to give any criticism of the plan or ask any real questions like "How much is this going to cost us?" they will not answer you and will try to shut you down. Most of the people who attend are paid shills and stakeholders who will benefit from this plan passing. The public has been shut out of this process from the start. These meetings are just window dressing so that the corrupt MTC and ABAG folks can say that they gave the public a chance to give input about the plan. The input is NEVER used and does not matter. The plan has already been decided upon.

If you want to object you need to go to the county recorders office and file a declaration opposing this plan saying "I do NOT consent". Then you need to formally deliver this declaration to the agencies MTC and ABAG. Many people need to do this.


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Posted by PSMacintosh
a resident of Danville
on Mar 29, 2013 at 10:34 am

How much money and time has been spent on this plan (Plan Bay Area)?
Where exactly did this money (or time) come from?

This is all very WRONG (regardless of the intent or the ideas generated)! The "means" are wrong!

We need to demand/petition:
That our City councils get out of these agencies (that our cities not contribute to or participate with these agencies),
That our individual politicians do NOT participate on their boards/committees or meetings. (Councilmember Robert Storer needs to immediately RESIGN from ABAG), and
That our cities do not listen or adhere to their resulting mandates (ignore the requirements and PUBLICLY REFUSE THE MONEY and SUE them for discriminatorially granting it to other cities).

We need some politicians with backbone and POLITICAL MORALS.


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Posted by Bill
a resident of Danville
on Mar 29, 2013 at 11:05 am

PSMacintosh,

Take a look at the website for One Bay Area as everyone should in Danville as we are part of this thanks to our City Council. Its at Web Link Watch the video and see the members of other City Councils and folks on these organizations. These are stepping stone organizations for those that have designs on higher political office. They just use the people that are their constituents to climb the ladder at our peril. the people of Danville need out of ABAG just like Corte Madera did. Maybe we should have a town hall meeting and invite some folks from that community to describe to us why they left ABAG and how they accomplished this.


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Posted by Louise
a resident of Danville
on Mar 29, 2013 at 5:58 pm

There are so many regional bay area organizations and government groups that are determined to take away property rights that you'll go crazy trying to follow what they are up to. Check out the organization Citizens Alliance for Property Rights, their website www.bayarealiberty.org or sfinfo@proprights.org. Maybe one of their representatives will come to speak to Danville residents to get the "other side of the story." This is the side that that ABAG, One Bay Area and MTC do not want you to hear. These groups are against self government - they want to control what goes on in each town and city so that their plans are implemented and usually to the detriment of its residents. Its your community not theirs.


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Posted by Huh?
a resident of Danville
on Apr 1, 2013 at 9:50 am

The right wing nutbags who reliably post inanity on these fora crack me up. Complaining about "non-elected outsiders", etc.

Are you folks so totally ignorant (and incapable of even minimal research into these things you're so outraged about) that you don't know that ABAG is an organization ***composed of elected officials*** from the various cities and counties in the Bay Area?

And do you believe that there's absolutely no reason why an elected Danville official should meet regularly with elected officials from San Ramon, Dublin... even <gasp> Oakland or San Mateo County to discuss things like traffic, public transit, air pollution, water pollution? Do you think traffic stops at the city limit? Do you think what Alameda County does about traffic doesn't affect our lives? Or that air and water pollution don't cross county lines?

PSM and Dee, the reason they ignore you is because you're ignorant. Sorry, but that's the simple truth. County Recorder? Sue? Seriously?

And Louise, the only people around here I see threatening personal property rights are the "Stop Summerhill" folks, who want to deny that property owner the right to build the number of houses on his/her/its property that are already authorized by existing law.

This is simply elected officials doing what elected officials are supposed to do. If you folks think you know better, etc. - run for office. Run on your platform of withdrawing from ABAG and all other regional efforts to coordinate planning about traffic, pollution, transportation, housing, etc. Put it out there for the voters.