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Plans moving forward for strike Monday after BART management is 'no show' at state negotiator's meeting

Original post made on Jul 1, 2013

Negotiators for the two unions representing the majority of BART workers announced said Saturday night that they walked out of negotiations after 40 hours without a single new economic proposal from agents representing BART's elected board of directors.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Sunday, June 30, 2013, 10:04 AM

Comments

Posted by LMP, a resident of Danville
on Jul 1, 2013 at 6:52 am

Jeb, great job of representing the union view without illustrating the other side. Is this called journalism? I call it advocacy.


Posted by Raymond, a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 1, 2013 at 8:03 am

Jeb, your column is a complete fabrication. Other news sources stated that the union left the bargaining table hours before the deadline.


Posted by Lee, a resident of Diablo
on Jul 1, 2013 at 8:52 am

Too bad the lot of them can't be sacked. 76,000 + benifits a year isn't enough for these glorified bus drivers? No sympathy from me. They are lucky to have a job!!!


Posted by Huh!, a resident of Danville
on Jul 1, 2013 at 11:34 am

I have no sympathy with the Bart employees. They are lucky to have a job. I would like to bet that people in the unemployment line would give anything to have their job and pay. Maybe Bart should hire them. I feel sorry for those who use Bart regularly, that they will be impacted by the strike. Most are hard working people who do not make the salaries, and have the benefits that Bart employees do. Also traffic, businesses, and others will be affected. Greed knows no bounds! I hope the strike is settled soon for everyone's sake.


Posted by Huh!, a resident of Danville
on Jul 1, 2013 at 11:34 am

I have no sympathy with the Bart employees. They are lucky to have a job. I would like to bet that people in the unemployment line would give anything to have their job and pay. Maybe Bart should hire them. I feel sorry for those who use Bart regularly, that they will be impacted by the strike. Most are hard working people who do not make the salaries, and have the benefits that Bart employees do. Also traffic, businesses, and others will be affected. Greed knows no bounds! I hope the strike is settled soon for everyone's sake.


Posted by Samantha Eggers, a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 1, 2013 at 12:48 pm

I wonder if columnist Jeb even has the sense to be embarrassed for his venture into yellow journalism. There are two sides to a story and he would be smart to acknowledge any group aligned with the commie SCIU lies. What a crock. Hope BART fires the surly attitude-filled overpaid lazy workers.


Posted by Fed up, a resident of Danville
on Jul 1, 2013 at 1:29 pm

SCIU=socialist communist idiot union


Posted by PSMacintosh, a resident of Danville
on Jul 1, 2013 at 2:09 pm

How much compensation should BART employees earn for the tasks that they are doing?
How hard is the work? Does it take years of education, years of experience, years of paid schooling--to do? Does it take years of on-the-job training and experience to really do the job well and without close supervision and oversight?
Is it stressful and difficult work--mentally and/or physically?
Is it work that not many people could do?
Is there NOT a large supply of ready workers for this work (the supply and demand equation)?
If not, then shouldn't these jobs be considered to be MINIMUM WAGE work?

UNIONS bypass and upset the normal process of wage determination by using tactics equivalent to BLACKMAIL and EXTORTION (otherwise called a STRIKE).

Good luck to you, Citizens of the Bay Area, as more-and-more Mass Transportation systems (such as the Central Bullet Train) get built by the efforts of ONE BAY AREA and ABAG groups, while they simultaneously destroy and remove the individual "car" transport systems.

You want Mass Transit systems. Unfortunately, you will pay through the nose for them when you get held ransom at the hands of powerful UNIONS that want more money for their members (thus justifying the Unions existence) regardless of anything rational.


Posted by PSMacintosh, a resident of Danville
on Jul 1, 2013 at 2:09 pm

How much compensation should BART employees earn for the tasks that they are doing?
How hard is the work? Does it take years of education, years of experience, years of paid schooling--to do? Does it take years of on-the-job training and experience to really do the job well and without close supervision and oversight?
Is it stressful and difficult work--mentally and/or physically?
Is it work that not many people could do?
Is there NOT a large supply of ready workers for this work (the supply and demand equation)?
If not, then shouldn't these jobs be considered to be MINIMUM WAGE work?

UNIONS bypass and upset the normal process of wage determination by using tactics equivalent to BLACKMAIL and EXTORTION (otherwise called a STRIKE).

Good luck to you, Citizens of the Bay Area, as more-and-more Mass Transportation systems (such as the Central Bullet Train) get built by the efforts of ONE BAY AREA and ABAG groups, while they simultaneously destroy and remove the individual "car" transport systems.

You want Mass Transit systems. Unfortunately, you will pay through the nose for them when you get held ransom at the hands of powerful UNIONS that want more money for their members (thus justifying the Unions existence) regardless of anything rational.


Posted by PSMacintosh, a resident of Danville
on Jul 1, 2013 at 2:10 pm

Why should the employees get more money?
Has the job become harder to do?
Have the employees become better at doing their jobs?
Do they offer the customer something more and better than someone else could offer?
What makes the employee WORTH MORE PAY?


Posted by PSMacintosh, a resident of Danville
on Jul 1, 2013 at 2:10 pm

The fact that an Employee has personal "needs" is not relevant to the determination of how much he/she is worth to the Employer, to the World at large.


Posted by Sam Gompers, a resident of another community
on Jul 2, 2013 at 9:30 am

The market, operating within a collective bargaining system that's been in place since the 1930s, determines their pay.

It's amazing to me how capitalists who want markets to control everything else turn into raging socialists when they are inconvenienced. ("How much 'should' they make?" -- exactly what the market will bear!)