Did you write a similar letter to Chelsea, as to why she needs to talk her mom into dropping out of the race? I suggest you read a book by Secret Service Agent Gary Byrne, who spent years protecting the Clinton family in the Whitehouse. This agent describes in detail all the horrific things Bill and Hillary did while in the Whitehouse, and how horrible they treated people, and lied, lied, and lied, even when caught literally with their pants down. They continually risked national security for their own political agenda, and ruined numerous lives along the way. Hillary obviously continued this pattern while Secretary of State, and now as the Democratic nominee for President. Did you watch her with Chris Wallace on Sunday, still lying, still claiming that the FBI Director said she told the truth, despite the tape clearly laying out in detail, factually, that she lied. The Clintons do not believe the law of the land pertains to them, and that they can do whatever they want, whenever they want. How incredibly dangerous she would be as President, never telling the truth, and believing she is above the law.

Did you write a similar letter to Gary Johnson's children, asking them to talk their father out of running for President at a Libertarian? This guy, who you actually endorse, admitted that until recently, he smoked marijuana daily, for recreational, not medicinal reasons. Yet, you believe this is the person who should be President of the United States? Contrary to the lies the liberals like Gavin Newsome, and Gary Johnson, want us to believe, legalizing marijuana for recreational reasons, would be far more dangerous than having Donald Trump for President. Go read the New England Journal of Medicine articles, and other health periodicals, that make it clear how bad smoking marijuana truly is. Studies have found an 8 point I.Q. drop in those who regularly smoke marijuana, along with spiked increases in lung illnesses, cancer, increased heart attacks, as well as brain and behavioral problems in babies whose mother smoked marijuana. These are just the medical problems. The other problems are related to the affect on our country, which is why Senator Diane Feinstein has long been against the recreational use of marijuana, along with Governor Brown, as it creates a society of low energy, apathetic, uninspired people, who are not productive and contributing members of society. China, Japan, and many other countries continuously beat our students in test scores and academic standards, and the last thing we need is more stoned, apathetic, underachievers.

It is funny how Gavin Newsome and the liberals always attack, "Big Tobacco", for getting our children hooked on a dangerous product, cigarettes, but yet they are in favor of promoting recreational marijuana use? The same ill affects of cigarettes, obviously apply to marijuana use, but with added ill affects, and decreased productivity and other adverse risks.

Roz, do you want a President who sits around the Whitehouse getting stoned? Has our country gone so downhill that we have now reached that point? Donald Trump has his shortfalls, but drugs are not part of it, as he does not even drink alcohol, and does not smoke.

Your letter to Trump's children stresses his lack of experience in politics. Most consider General Eisenhower as an effective President, and he never held a political post before being President. Hillary only became Secretary of State as Obama did not want her to run against him during his second term, and it was a typical, insider politician move, for him to appoint her. We have seen firsthand what a horrible job she did as Secretary of State, and how badly our country has suffered. It was also an insult to President George H. Bush when Obama and Bill said that Hillary was the most qualified person to run for President. Excuse me, George H. Bush was a congressman, an ambassador, and Director of the CIA, along with Vice President of the United States, and a pilot who fought in combat. How does Hillary being a do nothing senator of a state she had no contacts with, and a few years as Secretary of State, make her more qualified, than George H. Bush?

Roz, I hope you write similar letters to Hillary and Gary Johnson's children, begging them to convince their parents to drop out of the race for President.

And to those Republicans who are not thrilled with Donald Trump, do not vote for Libertarian Gary Johnson, as our country has enough problems, without a lifelong pothead being the President. This guy admitted that until recently, he smoked marijuana daily, for recreational, not medicinal, reasons. You may not like some of the things Donald Trump says, but he is obviously a much better candidate than some guy who has been smoking marijuana his entire life. Think of President Reagan, and Nancy, and how hard they fought to get our youth off drugs. If you are a Republican, a vote for Gary Johnson is a slap to the face of the Reagans, and an insult to their legacy.

I don't care what Hillary Clinton does. I am quite seriously concerned for Donald Trump's mental health. I mean that. Hillary can be crooked or crazy but as long as Trump is her opponent, she will be President.

I don't want her to be President, so I am voting for Gary Johnson. I don't find his use of marijuana as problematic as you. I gather that Donald Trump drinks alcohol, at least he sells it with his name on it. Are you encouraging him to stop?

Johnson/Weld are two two-term Governors, one of a Western state and another of an Eastern state. Trump's running mate is Governor of a mid-western state, and more experienced than Trump to be President.

Click on the link to Romney's speech. It runs about 20 minutes. Romney is right and you and all of Trump's followers are wrong. President Trump would be a disaster for us and himself.

Roz

Roz, Trump does not drink alcohol, it is well know fact, he even mentioned during several interviews. Romney is a typical untrustworthy politician, who actually made Trump throw several fundraisers for him at Trump's home when Romney ran for President. So much for loyalty, but with politicians, loyalty means nothing. Last thing we need is advice from a politician like Romney whose only loyalty is to his own ego.

Roz ---"Politics is not like business".

This observation is what has brought us to this point.

The professional politician (including the worthless Gary Johnson, btw) has been absolutely corrupted, and most are as incompetent as they are greedy and self-serving.

To be able to look at the state of affairs both nationally and internationally and make your proclamation is to be totally and utterly unaware of what these people have done to the US.

Trump may say stupid things, he may come off as a buffoon at times, but he has had real, tangible, accomplishments. To anyone who is successful, I'd wager a bet that along the way they had some failures; I know I have. This is a silly benchmark, especially in business.

Now look at Clinton. Where are the accomplishments?

When Clinton says that she will carry forth the policies of Obama, that right there is reason enough to say NO to the professional politician.

Dan

Donald Trump is now going completely off the rails. I'm losing control of all the bizarre things he has said since the conventions and his attack on the Gold Star family. Let's see. There was his recent lie in which he said that thr NFL sent him a letter complaining about the scheduled dates of the upcoming Presidential debates. The NFL said that no such letter was ever sent. Trump also repeatedly asked a national security briefer multiple times what the point of having nuclear weapons was if we're not going to use them. Finally, his most recent bombshell lie involves claiming that he saw a "top secret" video of a $400 million cash transfer to from the US to Iran with Iranian officials unloading the cash from an airplane. The US government says that it knows of no such video and Trump's campaign is now confirming that there is no such video. That's right: Donald Trump's own campaign is basically now calling Donald Trump a liar.

Hillary Clinton is not a flawless candidate, but let's face facts: Donald Trump is not right in the head. He's a few sandwiches short of a picnic. He has no place in the White House leading this country. His natural place is sitting behind a desk on "Celebrity Apprentice" deciding whether to fire Kim Kardashian or Gary Busey, or Carrot-Top. We need to send him back there - quickly!

Sam,

Re/ the Gold Star family, at first I though he (Trump) had gone overboard, after reading about it on the news.
But when I think about it I have to side with Trump.

Khan got up in front of a national audience and attacked Trump first. Trump responded to the father, and not the fathers son. Is it written somewhere that someones who's son or daughter has died in battle is untouchable when they attack first?

Let's put it another way: what if Khan had come up to Trump and hit him? Does Trump - or anyone for that matter - not have the right to defend themselves?

Khan opened himself up to counter-attacks the second he got up and made his sons death a political event. While I have sympathy for his son, I have no sympathy for the father. In addition, Khan is a lawyer and has actually written in favor of Sharia law. Not exactly a ringing qualification there, my friend.

You're wrong, again. Trump was totally in the right to defend himself.

And to say that Clinton is "not a flawless candidate" is comically silly. She has been shown to be a habitual liar, rule and law breaker, and a complete incompetent by ANY metric at EVERY job she's held.

I'm still waiting for anyone to talk about her accomplishments. That is, concrete, measurable accomplishments that aren't tied into someone else doing any heavy lifting and her just putting her name on it.

I know you won't, because you can't.

As always, its been fun.

" Sam"- " Hillary Clinton is not a flawless candidate". Ha, ha, ha!! Thanks for the laughs! When 70% of Americans say the one word most associated with her is " Liar", that says it all. But your comment was hilarious, like a Dean Martin roast.

@DKHSK. :"You're wrong, again. Trump was totally in the right to defend himself."

I wasn't even addressing the question of whether Donald Trtump,has the "right" to defend himself against Mr. Khan. I think that it's obvious from the public opinion reaction that it was not the *wise* thing to do. Sometimes it's wiser not to do something even though you may be completely justified and fully within your rights to do that thing. Donald Trump completely missed that point and apparently so did you. I'm perfectly happy if Donald Trump believes he has the "right" to respond vigorously the next time he is criticized by a Gold Star family. I say to him "Go for it, Donald!".

As for Hillary Clinton being a liar, yeah she has lied. But Donald Trump takes the art of lying to all-time new heights. Adopting fake personas to boast about himself in the 3rd-person? Claiming to receive a letter from the NFL that the NFL flatly denies? Being called a liar by his own campaign? It's hilarious that you and other Trump supporters even want to bring up the subject of lying.

And to Bernie supporters who are upset about how Hillary and The DNC screwed you, and realize how corrupt Hillary is, vote for Dr. Jill Stein. She is an honest person, unlike Hillary, and her views are more like yours than lying Hillary.

Still waiting on that list of accomplishments Sam (and others)...

Everything else is noise.

@DKHSK. :"Still waiting on that list of accomplishments Sam (and others)..."

Well, let's see.....

Hillary Clinton played a major role in creating and guiding through Congress a program which brought health care coverage to millions of American children. She helped craft and implement the toughest sanctions ever on Iran, sanctions which brought Iran to the bargaining table. She played a key role in the decision on the bin Laden raid, voting to send the SEAL team into Pakistan despite objections from Biden and Defense Secretary Gates. Also, as Secretary of State she helped craft trade agreements resulting in a 50% increase in exports to China and large exports to other countries.

I haven't checked the Hillary Clinton campaign web site, but I'm pretty sure that they must have a long list of her accomplishments there as well, so why couldn't you simply look up the information for yourself?

When was the last elected President determined by 'accomplishments'?

the next Prez will be Clinton or Trump. Time y'all get used to that idea. AND perhaps go out and VOTE. Because you can only complain IF you vote if you don't like the outcome, or what happens after.

And right now although polls show Clinton in the lead, u'all might want to view the margin of error percent.......kerplop

Here's a good new Clinton ad against Donald Trump. It's title is simple: "Unfit":

Web Link
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"Sam": And who do you think paid for all those expensive Hillary ads? Yes, you got it, Wall Street. They have been bankrolling her, both officially thru donations, and unofficially thru "speaking fees", although of course she will not disclose the transcripts of what she said during those speeches. Her son in law, Chelsea's husband, of course, worked for Wall Street, and his father(another crooked Democratic politician) was convicted of felony fraud(when the Justice Department actually did their job and did not act like a private attorney working for Obama and the Democrats). The middle class will continue to falter under Hillary, just like they have for 8 years under Obama. The economic rate growth last quarter was only approximately 1%, one of the lowest growth rates in almost 50 years. Yes, 4 more years of Obama, under Hillary, is just what our country needs. Well, at least we can count on her to be honest with us. LOL

Here are some comments about Trump by Dr. Charles Krauthammer in the National Review. As opposed to the armchair psychiatrists who are always commenting on forums like this one, Charles Krauthammer is a real psychiatrist, a board-certified psychiatrist with an MD in psychiatry from Harvard. Here's what he has to say about Donald Trump:

"Trump’s latest gaffe shows clearly how unfit he is for the presidency."

"Of course we all try to protect our own dignity and command respect. But Trump’s hypersensitivity and unedited, untempered Pavlovian responses are, shall we say, unusual in both ferocity and predictability."

" This is beyond narcissism. I used to think Trump was an eleven-year-old, an undeveloped schoolyard bully. I was off by about ten years. His needs are more primitive, an infantile hunger for approval and praise, a craving that can never be satisfied. He lives in a cocoon of solipsism where the world outside himself has value — indeed exists — only insofar as it sustains and inflates him. "

"Most politicians seek approval. But Trump lives for the adoration. He doesn’t even try to hide it, boasting incessantly about his crowds, his standing ovations, his TV ratings, his poll numbers, his primary victories. The latter are most prized because they offer empirical evidence of how loved and admired he is."

Web Link

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@American

Hillary's daughter's husband's father was convicted of fraud? Carrying the "guilt by association" argument pretty far, aren't you?

Here's a more direct association: Try Donald Trump's longtime butler and close associate who is now under investigation by the US Secret Service for issuing violent, racist threats against both President Obama AND the First Lady.

"Sam": Any respected, independent Psychiatrist would never offer an expert opinion or diagnosis without actually conducting a personal interview of the patient. Your so-called expert has about as much credibility as Hillary's "right wing conspiracy" theory in response to her husbands decades long history of praying on vulnerable young women.

As to Hillary's son in law father, it is relevant, as I am sure she will continue Obama's unprecedented excess use of Presidential Pardons in removing his felony conviction for fraud. After all, he was a Democrat, don't they have immunity under the law?

@American :""Sam": Any respected, independent Psychiatrist would never offer an expert opinion or diagnosis without actually conducting a personal interview of the patient."

That's true. And Charles Krauthammer has said in the past on interviews that he cannot make a professional psychiatric diagnosis from afar when asked for his thoughts on Obama, for example. But Charles Krauthammer was not claiming to make a professional or "expert" diagnosis here in his essay on Donald Trump. He had his National Review columnist hat on, not his psychiatrist hat or suit on. He was writing an essay in a magazine and, just like any essayist, drawing on his life knowledge and experience, which includes psychiatric training experience in his case. In short, his two-bit opinion on Donald Trump's mental condition beats your two-bit opinion or my two-bit opinion or the two-bit opinion of most people on Trump's mental condition. Any argument there? Or do you have an MD in psychiatry from Harvard, too?

BTW, Charles Krauthammer is a staunch conservative and a regular on the National Review and conservative talk shows. He's one of "your" guys, and even he is saying that Donald Trump is unfit for the Presidency of the US.

So, following American's "guilt by association" theory, the fact that Charles Kushner, Ivanka's father-in-law, "was convicted [in 2005] of making illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion and witness tampering", we know exactly what to expect from a President Trump. Now I understand why Mr. Trump won't release his tax returns, has attempted to malign the judge overseeing his Trump University fraud case, and solicited campaign donations from overseas.

"In 2005, following an investigation by the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of New Jersey, Kushner was convicted of making illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion and witness tampering by attempting to silence his sister and brother-in-law by creating a sex tape of his brother-in-law with a prostitute. Chris Christie, then the U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey, negotiated a plea agreement with him and he was sentenced to two years in prison. He has since been released."
Web Link

DHK's favorite trick on each thread is to demand that others do his research for him, remind them of their obligation to him (?) when they ignore his demand, and then triumphantly declare the opposite point proven when they persist in avoiding his homework assignments.

So, here ya go Dan -- from 2014. Web Link

And now he will try to impeach the source, cherry-pick some minor point as making the whole thing wrong, crow that Now the opposite inference is irresistible, and hint darkly that this comment came from a blogger who banned him long ago, as if that mattered.

Instead, come on back when you've been Secretary of State, fella.

Hillary initially claimed that as secretary of state she did not carry a work phone as it was too cumbersome and inconvenient for her to carry two phones, and she did not have room for them. Then the truth later came out that she carried an IPhone and Blackberry, neither government issued nor encrypted. Then we learned she also carried an Ipad and an Ipad mini. But she claimed she did not do email. Then we learned she had email on a private server. She claimed her email was only for personal correspondences, yoga, and wedding planning. But then the FBI Director made it clear she lied as usual, it contained numerous government classified documents!

To duplicate classified material without permission or to send it over an unsecured channel is completely illegal, and people have been convicted of this crime. That is why every government agency employs burn bags, safes, and special folders for anything marked confidential. Yet, Hillary got away with not only lying to the public, as she and Bill have done for thirty years, but with violating a criminal statute, and violating our country's national security.

If not for a stained blue dress, the public would not have learned the truth about the Clinton Whitehouse, and how Bill committed perjury before the grand jury and obstructed justice. Hillary, the great champion of women, has a long, sordid history of personally attacking the numerous young female victims of Bill. The truth does not matter to the Clintons, never has, and never will.

"Sam", you do not need an MD from Harvard to realize what the public already knows: Hillary is an absolute liar who can not be trusted, and will break every law imaginable in order to further her own career and own agenda.

Hillary, the great champion of the little guy, please. Read Secret Service Agent Gary Byrne's book about what he personally observed while protecting generations of Presidents in the Whitehouse. George H. Bush and Barbara treated all the staff, all the maids, all the secret service agents, all the butlers, with respect, dignity, and true compassion. From day one Bill and Hillary terrorized those who worked in the Whitehouse, yelling, swearing at them, treating them like garbage, and retaliating when Bill's never ending libido created threats to national security. For Bill, in his speech at the convention this year, to talk about his "long love story" with his precious Hillary, is as phony as Hillary's excuses for Whitewater, Travelgate, Benghazi, and every other scandal these people have caused over the years.

We Americans must have a short memory, or the young voters must not care about history, as how can anyone forget the disgusting testimony on C-Span of how our President, in our Whitehouse, talked on the phone with national security leaders about national security issues, at the same Bill was taking advantage of a young intern and using a cigar.(Is this why Democrats hate big Tobacco, ha ha!) She had no security clearance, but hey, with the Clintons, security clearance does not matter. Hillary went on national television and claimed it was all a "right wing conspiracy", and viciously attacked the credibility of Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky, and the long list of females Bill had sexually prayed on over the years.

Look, I get that Donald Trump says some stupid things, and can be crass and self-centered, but compared to the almost thirty years of scandals and national security problems the Clintons have caused, how can anyone in their right mind vote for the Clintons?

American,

I agree that Dr. Jill Stein is an upstanding person of impeccable character, but she has no more real political or governing experience than Trump. Gary Johnson is the best choice of the four candidates.

Both he and his running mate have political and executive experience as State Governors. Johnson is fiscally conservative and would (I hope) cut the size and cost of the Federal Government and return a lot of that authority back to the states (Constitution anyone?).

But he's socially liberal -- not anti-gay marriage or imprisoning people for smoking pot (or he'd be serving 50 years by now). These Social, or anti-Social laws (I call them "prig laws,") have not changed anyone's behavior and only filled up our prisons to the breaking point. I believe Bernie's followers would appreciate a maverick like Johnson as much as they dislike Hillary and Trump.

I know Krauthammer is a politically conservative columnist, but I did not know he is a board-certified Psychiatrist. If he says Trump is crazy, Trump is crazy!

Dan,

You said, "The professional politician (including the worthless Gary Johnson, btw) has been absolutely corrupted, and most are as incompetent as they are greedy and self-serving." But you like Trump because of his business success. Well here's a bit of Johnson's "worthless" biography:

"While in college, Johnson earned money as a door-to-door handyman.[11] His success in that industry encouraged him to start his own business, Big J Enterprises, in 1976. When he started the business, which focused on mechanical contracting, Johnson was its only employee.[12] His major break with the firm was receiving a large contract from Intel's expansion in Rio Rancho, which increased Big J's revenue to $38 million.[13]

Over-burdened by his success, Johnson enrolled in a time management course at night school, which he credits with making him heavily goal-driven.[13] He eventually grew Big J into a multimillion-dollar corporation with over 1,000 employees.[14] By the time he sold the company in 1999, it was one of New Mexico's leading construction companies.[15]"

Trump inherited money and started several failed businesses that lost millions of dollars. Johnson is self-made and became one of the biggest employers (with over 1000 employees) in New Mexico, and HE's the worthless one?

Roz

@American :"Read Secret Service Agent Gary Byrne's book about what he personally observed while protecting generations of Presidents in the Whitehouse. ..."

Gary Byrne's account is scoffed at by other Secret Service agents. There are two classes of Secret Service agents. One class, the "Presidential detail" class, serves as the elite inner core and the personal protective layer of the President and the President's family. Gary Byrne was NOT in that in that class. He was NOT part of the elite inner core, and would have had none of the access that he claims to have had to the President and the President's family. Gary Byrne was a "uniformed officer" of the Secret Service, which is assigned to mostly property and area protection assignments. When the President enters and area, such officers stand back and let the elite inner core of Secret Service officers, the "Presidential detail", takes over responsibilities for watching over the President.

I get the fact that your susceptible to manipulation by grandiose liars. After all, you still support Trump. But don't expect the rest of us to buy into the tall tales that your liars cook up.

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"Secret Service veterans denounce anti-Clinton tell-all book
Former agents blast writer Gary Byrne for having 'underlying motives"

"The book has rankled current and former members of the Secret Service, who don’t like anyone airing their business in public — but who also take issue with Byrne inflating his role. Byrne was a uniformed officer in Bill Clinton’s White House. But that’s the lowest level of protection within the White House and around the president."

"People familiar with West Wing security laugh at the idea that Byrne or any uniformed officer ever would have walked in on Bill Clinton anywhere, whether in a meeting or, as a New York Post article over the weekend claims, in the middle of a make-out session in the Map Room with the late daughter of former Vice President Walter Mondale. The Secret Service presidential detail would have stopped him. (That affair was a well-worn rumor during the Clinton years, though strongly denied by Eleanor Mondale, who died of brain cancer in 2011.)"

Politico.com: Web Link
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Roz: I respect your opinions, I just disagree with your conclusions on Gary Johnson and Donald Trump. I can not vote for someone for President who has been using marijuana his entire life for non-medicinal reasons(Johnson). Johnson also recently made some very anti-Mormon comments, which suggest he will not respect freedom of religion.

As to Trump, he inherited $1 million from his father, and is now worth an estimated $7 billion. With our out of control budget deficit, it is finally time we start running our country like a business, or like a reasonable person runs their own financial affairs. We do not need anymore professional politicians.

Finally, is it too much to expect our President to be honest and trustworthy? I certainly do not agree with Bernie Sanders or Dr. Jill Stein's political views, but truth be told I would vote for either of them before I could ever vote for Hillary. They are good people, of good character, and I respect that, unlike Hillary.

Well, if the meter of non-readiness for President is "thirty years of scandals", maybe we should refresh our memories on the many scandals of Mr. Trump.

Alleged Mafia ties - NY & Atlantic City 1970s-?
Racial housing discrimination - NYC 1973-1975
Using undocumented Polish workers - NYC 1980
Refusing to pay workers and contractors - 1980s-present
Anti-trust violations - NJ 1986
Tenant intimidation - NYC 1982-1986
His game of casino/resort bankruptcies - 1991, 1992, 2004, 2009
Fines for breaking casino rules - NY & NJ - 1990, 1991, 2000
Beauty Pageants - 1992-present
Trump University - 2005-2010
His condo/hotel games - NY, Florida, Mexico, mid-2000s
and more, without even touching on his hop, skip and jumping between, on and over wives and mistress(es) . . .
Web Link

As for national security issues, given his bro-mance with Putin, Mr. Trump has made it quite clear that all anyone has to do is praise him, whether it's real or just in his own mind, and he will give away the nation.

Introduction to the world's future:

Web Link

"Sam": I have read Secret Service Agent Gary Byrne's book, have you? I know you love to rely on "summaries" that liberals provide, but I am of the generation that thinks it is best to actually read something yourself and make your own analysis, before attacking it.

Which part of his book do you believe is not true? How horrible the Clintons treated the whitehouse staff, that Bill risked national security by repeatedly bringing in Monica Lewinsky to areas she did not have clearance, or that Hillary went on national television and viciously attacked the credibility of the women Bill preyed on? Sorry, all of those things are true, and you can actually watch the impeachment proceedings on C-span tapes, to see the long list of people who verified all of these things. Again, "Sam", you might want to actually read something before you criticize it, or does critical thinking and analysis not really matter to Clinton fanatics?

Secret Service Agent Gary Byrne is not the only sworn law enforcement officer who has seen first hand how dangerous Hillary Clinton truly is. Gary Aldrich, an FBI Officer, who was liaison to the Whitehouse, wrote a scathing article in the Washington Times, noting: "Mrs.Clinton used security agencies as a hammer to attack and punish those who stood in her way. The FBI, the Secret Service, and the IRS hounded and then prosecuted seven innocent men who worked for the Whitehouse travel office simply because they were standing in the way of Mrs.Clinton's political interest and ambitions. She knew federal investigations would destroy those good men, but she wanted her friends in those slots, and that was all that mattered".

Even Leon Panetta, a well respected man of character by both sides of the aisle, who was chief of staff for Bill Clinton, wrote in his book, "Worthy Fights", about how untrustworthy Hillary was, in secretly bringing in sleazy Dick Morris to do "political things" Leon Panetta did not approve of. "It was actually Hillary Clinton who had asked Morris to resume working for the president...admiring Morris who openly disdained the substance of policy. He was only about winning".

@ "American:" Trump did not inherit $1M -- he was given a check from his father for that amount to start his businesses. He later inherited between $100-300M upon the elder Trump's demise. Big difference. Huge!

AND, here's the article that describes Leon Panetta's ENDORSEMENT of Hillary this time, AS HE DID in 2008. Web Link

Leon Panetta endorses Hillary Clinton

By Nick Gass 01/07/16 12:35 PM EST

Leon Panetta made official his endorsement of Hillary Clinton for president on Thursday, remarking upon her experience and credentials to tackle global issues while dismissing worsening conditions around the globe that critics have attributed to her time at the State Department.

"I’ve endorsed Hillary Clinton, and I've also helped provide advice on defense and foreign policy issues," said Panetta, who served as both director of the Central Intelligence Agency and as defense secretary in the Obama administration, in an interview on MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports."

"I think that what this country needs at a very dangerous time is responsible leadership in the real world," Panetta continued. "Not in a fantasy world, but in the real world, and she is somebody who has that experience, and for that reason, that's why I support her." ...

It's not the first time Panetta has at least voiced support for Clinton's candidacy. In October 2014 while promoting his book, "WORTHY FLIGHTS," Panetta said he would "absolutely" back his former administration colleague if she ran a second time.

Recounting his endorsement of Clinton in the 2008 cycle, Panetta wrote in his book that he "admired her intelligence, tenacity, and decisiveness" and hosted events for her in his home state of California.

"Yes, we had disagreed on occasion," he wrote. "I had favored deficit reduction over what I regarded as an uncertain course on health care reform, and she initially watched over my work as chief of staff to make sure I was sufficiently protective of her husband — but we had come to trust each other, and there were few people in politics whose acumen I more admired."

So, I ask you -- just WHO is UNTRUSTWORTHY? I say it's the guy who misrepresents the facts.

Sikh,

Here was my "researched" response in a different blog to Billies pathetic attempt to hype up Clintons fictional experience: Web Link

Go ahead...read it and come back at me when take your thumb out of your mouth.

Sincerely,

Dan

Billie,

"Alleged Mafia ties - NY & Atlantic City 1970s-?"

-Alleged. Nothing here. He was questioned and nothing came of it.

"Racial housing discrimination - NYC 1973-1975"

-This was settled. No guilt was admitted.

"Using undocumented Polish workers - NYC 1980"

-Partial victory on appeal. Paid settlement. Done

"Refusing to pay workers and contractors - 1980s-present"

-For alleged shoddy work. Happens all the time in every industry. Not surprising at all.

"Anti-trust violations - NJ 1986"

-He was fined for failing to disclose stock purchases. Done.

"Tenant intimidation - NYC 1982-1986"

-He settled and continued to monitor. Done.

"His game of casino/resort bankruptcies - 1991, 1992, 2004, 2009"

-You forgot the word "lawful". Don't like it? Change the laws.

"Fines for breaking casino rules - NY & NJ - 1990, 1991, 2000"

-He admitted no wrong-doing and is out of the casino business. Done.

"Beauty Pageants - 1992-present"

-Denied harassment allegations and settled. Done.

"Trump University - 2005-2010"

In litigation.

"His condo/hotel games - NY, Florida, Mexico, mid-2000s"

-No wrong-doing. Paid a settlement and done.

"and more, without even touching on his hop, skip and jumping between, on and over wives and mistress(es) . . ."

-Oh Bill Clinton, where are you when we need you? You know without double standards, you dems wouldn't have any standards at all.


Now...on to Clinton and her lying to the AMERICAN public about her emails, her record and Benghazi.

Billie,

Regarding Kushner: Web Link

Pull quote:

"Charles Kushner, a multimillionaire real estate executive, philanthropist and one of the top DEMOCRATIC donors in the country, was sentenced on Friday to two years in federal prison after pleading guilty to 18 counts of tax evasion, witness tampering and making illegal campaign donations."

LOL! See what I did there?

You really make it so easy.

Dan

And btw Sikh, your writing style gives you away Every. Single. Time.

You don't fool anyone.

Sam,

1. "...played a major role..."
2. "...helped craft and implement..."
3. "... played a key role"
4. "...helped craft..."

Well there you go...fluff. Nothing done BY HER. Always "playing a role". Never a idea...just part of the process.

And the Senate? She authored ONE bill renaming a postal office.

Wow...that right there is some accomplishment.

Thanks Sammy, always fun!

@DKHSK

You're trolling, Dan. Not even the President accomplishes things single-handedly.

Trump thinks vaccines cause autism.
Trump thinks Ted Cruz' father was probably involved in the Kennedy assassination.
Trump believes what he reads in tabloids.
Trump was concerned enough about Obama's birth certificate to make a big deal of it.
....

I wonder if Trump thinks the whole nuclear war being dangerous thing could just be some kind of hoax?

I'll go with a pot smoker over Trump.

Trump thinks DHK has a clue.

Actually, I think DHK wins this thread's 'cholo' award for serial, stream of consciousness posting, although he can't yet match cholo for entertainment value and relevance.

My fave is the Trump supporters who echo Trump's words, "Hey, they hit me (Trump) first!" Yeah, I guess it doesn't count for anything when the Republican nominee for President of the US, well before the DNC, announces his intention to seal off entry into the US to Muslims and increase surveillance of their homes and places of worship because, you know, "something is going on here and we can't trust these people" Nope, that doesn't count as hitting first at all! Poor Donald, having to listen to the parents of a Muslim American fallen hero confront him on his own xenophobic rants! Yup, Donald is right. Sure is. They hit him first, alright. Which begs the question: What kind of human being would think of responding to the parents in that manner, and what about the mental state, too, of those who then defend such a response?.

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Millions of dollars in fines and settlement payouts. Investors left holding the bag. Small businesses stiffed on goods and services provided, then held up for years in court. Misogyny, discrimination, physical and legal threats and intimidation, fraud . . . just like his Presidential campaign.

Yet, because Mr. Trump admits no "wrong-doing", it's "done", nothing to see here, we should move along? Yeah, ok, dkhsk. You do that. Me? I'm voting for "HER".

You have a nice day now.

Jay Leno had the best Clinton line: " Hillary keeps saying, " I have been tested, I have been repeatedly tested". That's good, because with all the women Bill has been with during your marriage, you better be tested!".

Too bad there isn't a viable 3rd choice. Hope those who spend a great amount of time on their soap box actually go out and VOTE. I should amend that: you can stay HOME and vote too.....

@ "American": Leno endorses Hillary, too. Web Link

I used to say that most of the kids at Amador and Foothill High are more mature than Donald Trump. I've since revised my statement. I now think that nearly all of the kids at Amador and Foothill High must be more mature than Donald Trump and probably most of the kids at Hart Middle School as well. Donald Trump is the most unbelievably unfit candidate for President that I've ever seen or can ever imagine. Why on earth would anyone want to give this guy control of the codes for the release of our nation's nuclear weapons?

Donald Trump: Unfit Web Link

..............

Sikh-ie,

"Stream of consciousness"? "Cholo"?

LOL!

Come out of your hiding place...seriously.

Dan

Sam,

One of the central tenants of leadership is responsibility.

Being responsible for failure is equally, if not more important that responsibility for success.

Clinton, has not lead anything of substance to success. Failure has been the hallmark of her career. To simply for you my friend, "participation" does not equal "leadership" which does not equal "success".

Its just that simple. She's done NOTHING of substance and even the State department couldn't come up with anything. Look at the thread I sent to Sikh-ie last night.

You and others elected a complete novice for the office of the Presidency 8 years ago and now we have disasters both nationally and, most certainly, internationally that will take years to clean up. Clinton has promised us a third term of the same. NO THANK YOU.

The cognitive dissonance on this is astounding.

And learn the meaning of troll. You sound like Michael for crying out aloud.

Dan

Billie,

Frankly I don't really care who you vote for. I just love countering your ridiculous attempt to squeeze water out of a rock. Have at it, knock yourself out.

Have a nice day.

To Mr. Sikh: please change your nickname to 'NostraDANus." You called his flustered reactions perfectly. Bravo!

You know of course that none of this matters in California. Everyone protesting on this blog can vote for Trump and Hillary will still win the 55 electoral prize from California. As BobB said, I'm voting for the pot smoker over Trump and Hillary. In fact if every pot smoker in California voted for Johnson, provided they could remember to vote, he would win!

Roz

SHale99

"Too bad there isn't a viable 3rd choice." I'm not sure what you mean by "viable," but I suppose that means electable. There are several 3rd choices that are certainly better than Trump or Hillary.

I'm voting for 2 term Republican Governor of New Mexico, Gary Johnson (the pot smoker), running with 2 term Republican Governor of Massachusetts, William Weld on the Libertarian ticket. Green Party candidate, Dr. Jill Stein is also on most state ballots. Either of these is an excellent third choice, but Johnson has a real chance of winning if he can get his poll numbers up to 15% to be included in the debates.

Roz

PS. Did I say Trump is crazy? He's mentally unfit to be President. I hope he gets help soon.

Roz

@Roz

Out of all the billionaires in this country, leave it to Republican Party voters to put up the most crazy and unfit of all of them to be their nominee for the Presidency. Let's give them a good spanking in November.

:-)

Yes, Roz 'viable' means a possibly higher than zero of being elected. :) No matter how many official parties there are, there is really just two.

A vote for anybody beyond the '2' pretty much equates to throwing your vote away or there about. Might make you feel good, tho......but have no practical impact. Course, it is one step above simply not voting at all, which a lot of people will do.

The myth of Trump, the 'self-made' billionaire and business savant, dismantled by a journalist who covered him for many years: Web Link

A few excerpts:

"Amid all the self-made myths about Donald Trump, none is more fantastic than Trump the moneymaker, the New York tycoon who has enjoyed a remarkably successful business career. In reality, Mr. Trump was a walking disaster as a businessman for much of his life. This is not just my opinion. Warren Buffett said as much this past week." ...

"The article I had just written took a skeptical look at the ability of Mr. Trump’s newly opened Trump Taj Mahal Atlantic City casino to make the interest payments on its bonds. I quoted an analyst saying, “Once the cold winds blow from October to February, it won’t make it.” Mr. Trump complained to the man’s employer. Within days, the analyst was fired. But his prediction would prove prescient."

" ... we still don’t know exactly how much he inherited from his father’s real estate empire, valued at $250 million to $300 million when his father died in 1999, and probably worth multiples of that today."

"This disconnect between the public’s perception of Mr. Trump as a self-made mogul and the reality of his being a rich kid who lost other people’s money and made far less for himself than he claims is still his Achilles’ heel."

His daddy even bailed him out by "buying" over $3 Million(!) in casino chips, so his son could make an debt payment. Thanks for rigging the system, pops.

Could Tom be any more pathetic than having to also clogg up Roz's blog with his misguided liberal rants and raves. Nobody reads his boring blog, look at his low numbers, so he has to jump over to Roz's blog to get attention. I may not agree with Roz's opinions, but she is always respectful to others, and she makes you think about points of views, and you can learn something from her. She is the Erma Bombeck of the Danville Weekly. Tom, if you want more readers, study Roz, and lean how to be respectful to others whose opinions you disagree with.

Oh! I can remember a blogger :Web Link with whom I had a disagreement over metrics of ACA and he vigorously hyped a study by the heralded Rand corp.

I give you the coming ACA collapse: Web Link

There are more than enough articles to provide further measurement, but I wouldn't want to rub it in his face.

But by all means democrats, let's EXPAND this policy as Clinton has campaigned on so that we can shovel even MORE money into it.

I think its is Hilarious that some want to talk about Trumps supposed lies about his wealth, but never want to talk about Clintons lies regarding Benghazi or, more recently, her emails, or coming under sniper fire, or Whitewater or, travel office, or...

Oh, you get my point!

ps,
I expect the poster whose name rhymes with shlo-mo to show up any second now. And where's Kluget, fer' cry'n out aloud?

American -- "Could Tom be any more pathetic..."

Why yes, I think Web Link could, in fact, be more pathetic.

:)

Ah, yes -- attack the messenger, again.

The article IS quite damaging to all those myths you've been peddling (and maybe even deluding yourself into believing) -- AND it happens to be credible. The journalist wrote for the Wall Street Journal when he covered LpO -- hardly the go-to source for "misguided liberal rants and raves." So I don't blame you for going after me -- I'm all you've got.

Please direct your concerns about my blog's readership to Gina. Or you could actually study the numbers, over time -- pretty healthy (but that's what's known colloquially as a 'fact', and thus may be unconvincing to you). As Yogi Berra said: "Nobody goes there anymore -- it's too crowded."

@DKHSK & @American

As every bit as mature as Donald Trump.

'Nuff said!

Dan will you move to Canada if Trump is not President?

Please?

Dear Roz,
I very much disagree with your Trump comments. Mr. Donald Trump will make an outstanding President. He will not be bought by special interest and he will bring in the talent required to make sound and ethical choices for all of us.

He's learned a lot from his business ups and downs that will help him manage the presidential office responsibilities. Remember too, most media resources have their agenda and distort and even lie. Some news stations don't report the news accurately. They manipulate the story to project unflattering/shocking twisted messages. It's very sad.

I'm for Trump!
Respectfully,
J

SHale99,

No.

Next question.

Dan

Perhaps the higher-ups at PW don't realize there are hit-generating programs that can be acquired off the internet...

Just saying...

@Jeannette :"Mr. Donald Trump will make an outstanding President. He will not be bought by special interest and he will bring in the talent required to make sound and ethical choices for all of us. "

Yes, Jeanette. Donald Trump's sound and ethical decisions during his campaign have been on full display for all of America to see and judge. That's why he's losing in the polls.

Want proof of the mass cognitive dissonance of the democrats on this post?

Notice how NOBODY has said a word about my link on the ACA and Clintons promise of continuing that program?

Not ONE has provided ANY rebuttal.

And I hear someone yammering about "climate change". Ask them if ANY model that has shown any significant warming (note what I did there, genius') ever been shown to accurately reflect past climate?

Oops...they're reduced to stammering fools that then say " but consensus!!!"

Too funny...

So here I am, sipping on a very nice wine, when Dan's paranoid delusions almost caused me to sacrifice some of it onto my monitor. Almost. Once again, he does exactly what Mr. Sikh exposed as a stupid routine tactic -- posting some ridiculous crap and expecting others to read it. When they don't -- point proved! For the record, Dannie, I never read the fables you post. I suspect others may concur.

And it took me a while to understand it, but I Think he just accused me of actually kiting my blog numbers by some nefarious means I never heard-of (but he had) -- and for some reason I cannot fathom. It has competition, but it's the single stupidest thing I've ever read on the web. Does it occur to you, Dan, how much that says about You, rather than me? But -- to resolve any doubt in the foggiest of minds -- no, Dan, I do not kite my numbers.

Now, back to that nice wine.

Tom,

Respect and enjoy the wine.
Ignore the TROLL!

"And it took me a while to understand it..."

I'm sure it did, just like cross-posting at Fark, eh Dogfather?

Enjoy your whine, er, I mean wine.

Always a pleasure.

So Dan, pretty sure Trump won't be the next President and I'm worried about your mental health as the bloggers here will soon after the election cease blogging about politics. What will u do to release your 'opinion'. I hope you will be ok?

PS everybody else if you ignore the troll, he will go away.

Shale99,

Gee...where would I be without your love and compassion? /s

So you're "pretty sure" eh? That sounds like there might be some creeping doubt after todays poll releases huh?

Hey I have an idea, why don't YOU defend Clintons stance on ACA since nobody else will even <GASP!> look at the link?!

Or, you could just drink wiiiine.

@DKHSK

No one owes you a rebuttal on the ACA story from your obscure, cherry-picked website, Dan, especially when you've demonstrated time and time again that you are not interested in an intellectually honest and intelligent discussion but only in trolling. Not worth my time or anyone else's. The same goes with arguing with you about climate change, I'm a Ph.D. scientist but admit that I don't fully understand all the science of climate change because it's not my particular field. You're a non-scientist but despite that you think that you've got it all figured out. Guess what you look like to me?

And no SHale99, if you know anything about me, you should know I'm here for the long term.

Just ask Tommie-boy up-thread.

Sorry (but I'm not).

Dan

Sammy,

If you think I expect any of you dems to respond with concrete facts, you are as crazy as your predictions and rhetoric.

I KNOW you won't respond. You won't respond because you CAN'T without making yourselves look like fools!

Go ahead, be the brave soul that defends and explains what's happening in ACA or the Middle East or any number of programs that Clinton says she carry forward as Obamas third term.

Happy with race relations? Hello the 1960's!

Not one of you jokers has mentioned ONE word about these programs and policies. NOT ONE. And we all know why: YOU CAN'T.

So you and the others in the alleged cheese and whine club can complain all you want.


And listen up "Doctor", I've been on these boards commenting for a while and If you know anything about me you would know I've worked in research AND development technology companies for most of my adult life. I still do. I am VERY familiar with the scientific method.

And Investors Business Daily is an obscure website?

Who knew?

@DKHSK :"I am VERY familiar with the scientific method."

*sigh*. I believe that you once said that you were a programmer. Your saying that you are up to debating Ph.D. climate scientists about the science of global warming because you are "very familiar with the scientific method" would be like someone saying that they are more qualified to discuss advanced programming than an MIT computer science professor because they know BASIC.

"...you would know I've worked in research AND development technology companies"

I note that you didn't actually say you worked in research & development but simply "in research AND development technology companies". Well, so do a lot of people from secretaries to janitors to plumbers.

Oh Sammy...

Yes...there are tech companies that do nothing but research, and then there are companies that take that research and "develop" it into products. I've worked in both starting at the engineering level and worked up to c-level.

And no, I'm not a "programmer". I work in hardware engineering and operations areas.

I know modeling and I know reverse compatibility. And in modeling, just as in HW or SW development, if you can't make it reverse compatible, well then you'll have an awful lot of p-ed off customers.

But you're a "Doctor", you already know that, don't you?

Hey, did you get your PhD from a IVY league school btw? Wasn't there another commentor on this board that claimed he was a "Doctor" from a IVY league university???

And "I" note that you wouldn't touch the other subject regarding Clinton, huh?

Fair enough...

Roz,

Thanks for having a thick-enough skin to allow for a healthy and sometimes topical debate on your blog.

Much appreciated!

Dan

There's a guy at Princeton who controls the Princeton Electoral Consortium. Much like Nate Silver's site, the Princeton guy computes over 90 polls -- mostly at the state level -- and each day gives odds on the presidential winner in Nov. Those of you who like numbers, and a scientific way of crunching numbers, might very well enjoy this site. He has been spot on presidential outcomes over several cycles -- within approx. .1 per cent of final outcome.

Dan is right. Trump still has a chance. See today's compilation/prediction. Good job, Dan!


Web Link

Marlon,

No disrespect, but when have I EVER said Trump has a chance??

Does anyone EVER PAY ATTENTION?

@DKSHK :"I work in hardware engineering and operations areas."

That's pretty far removed from the field of climate science. I would say that my background as a research physicist puts me much closer to that field than you but I don't pretend to fully understand all the science of the field. I think that it's rather presumptuous of you as a hardware engineer to believe that you have the field of climate science all figured out.

@Marlon

Thanks for the info about the website. But did you really look at that histogram on the front page with the blue 95% confidence level highlighted? It's a pretty damning picture of how slim Donald Trump's chances of winning really are based on current data.

"That sounds like there might be some creeping doubt after todays poll releases huh?"

If I'm not mistaken, these are your words above, Dan, though there are so many of you on these sites it's easy to be mistaken about the real Dan or how many of him we're dealing with. At any rate, your above quote seems to suggest you think today's polls [really?] are reflecting some kind of changing tide in the election trajectory, in favor of Trump!

Glad you liked the PEC snapshot, Sam. It's run by Sam Wang, a Princeton physicist, who dabbles with election stats as his "hobby." Some hobby! Yes, I can read the numbers and graphs; I was being sarcastic.

Whoa,

I step away from my computer for two days to watch the Olympics and this blog turns into Holy War!

Tom is welcome to post his comments on my blog just as I am on his blog. I enjoy Tom's writing style even when I might not agree with his politics. In the famous words of Rodney King, "People, I just want to say, can we all get along? Can we get along?"
Read more at: Web Link

Dan, you complemented me ". . . for having a thick-enough skin to allow for a healthy and sometimes topical debate on your blog." No, my skin isn't that thick and it's mostly fat. I just wasn't here to stop this free-for-all. I will be closing down the comments tonight.

But don't worry. My next blog, which I shall post today or tomorrow, is even more controversial. I suspect that Tom to weigh in on that one too.

Roz

PS My PhD isn't from an Ivy League University either. It's from USC.