Trump used his debate time defending himself, in doing so he appeared to be proud of how he dubbed the American tax payer in using tax laws to file bankruptcy multiple times and legally avoid responsibility for his bad business decisions.

Clinton was in better command of issues and readily explained her plans regarding the issues. I believe Clinton was the better debater.

The chasm between the two candidates is wider now than ever before. Going in I was not a supporter of Trump, would not vote for him, and I was not inclined to vote for Clinton. It is disheartening that our two party system can no longer provide a Kennedy - Nixon candidates.

The more I look at the transcript and my general opinion of what I heard last night, I am tending to think that the debate was a tie.

Both candidates performed almost exactly as expected. Clinton droning on about policies like the political technocrat she is, and Donald not sounding as if he is some half-crazed lunatic.

I noticed that a lot of pundits had Clinton winning on debate points, but from my vantage point I wonder if this view is true of the greater audience.

On the question of National Security and ISIS, Clintons plan boiled down to (paraphrase) "we must work closely with our allies". And on the topic of race-relations, she said something like "we need to build more community trust in the police and more trust in the police for the community".

Both of these are not answers, they're platitudes.

So even though she may have won on "debate points", I think she lost on substantive answers.

The bar for Trump was much lower. If I had a knock on him, I'd say that he did not fully exploit all the issues Clinton has, including her health. He did not hammer her on all the verifiable lies that she has told to the face of the American public. In short, he was too tame.

I think Trumps team went into this debate with a mind to marketing, meaning, Trump went tame last night to gauge public reaction to his performance. Using the data gained from last night I would expect that he will attack her with a lot more detail and emotion than he did last night. He'll do this because he knows that if he does this later in the game, it will leave a impression closer to the election date.

Lester Holt was a joke. From what I read, he interrupted Trump 41 times and Clinton just 7. He also framed most question to Hillary in a better light. Never asked about email, Benghazi or her foundation.
A complete and utter joke.

As if to bolster my point on the difference between what most pundits viewed and what the American public viewed, the Daily Mail took a snapshot of 17 debate polls (I don't know how they picked them), and they actually had Trump as the winner.

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Safe link.

CNN was the outlier, of course. And I'm surprised that Slate, of all polls, favored Trump as the winner. Go figure.

Hmmm.

Edit: 17 of 19 polls came out for Trump.

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Discussion on my blog on the Debate has been closed, but I wanted to post this email I got from Gary Johnson to show why I'm still planning to vote for him in November. I hope Gina leaves it up.

"America Deserves Better

There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other.
-John Adams

I heard Donald Trump describing a country I don't recognize, and I heard Hillary Clinton writing checks we can't possibly cash.

I suspect a great many of the millions who watched the debate did so in the hope that they would be inspired. With the possible exception of partisans on the extremes, I also suspect they were disappointed.

Americans don't want their children and grandchildren to inherit a $20 trillion debt, and they didn't hear anything [last night] that will keep that from happening. Ms. Clinton and Mr. Trump are afraid to tell the truth about spending. It's easier to just promise more of it and send the next generation the tab.

Americans believe in the Constitution and the protections it's supposed to provide. Mr. Trump appears willing to ‘frisk' those protections away if they get in the way of his version of fixing things. There was a time when Republicans believed in free trade and creating jobs through growth, not protectionism. What happened to that?

Our military men and women and their families deserve leadership they can trust to not send them into harm's way to intervene in conflicts they can't possibly resolve and which may or may not have a clear U.S. interest. They didn't get any reassurance [last night]. Americans want our military to protect us, not put their lives on the line to chase someone's agenda.

We deserve better, but what we saw [last night] was a promise that the bickering, the pandering and the polarization will continue. America is already great. It's great leaders we are lacking, and I don't think we found them on the stage [last night].

Maybe that's why Google searches for Gary Johnson are off the charts right now."

From Johnson/Weld 9/27/16

I'll believe Gary Johnson to be a decent candidate when he can name one, just one, foreign leader. LOL!

The guy really is the caricature of the Libertarian Party.

And yes, I too hope Gina keeps the thread alive.

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It is all just for entertainment. Thats my thoughts all n all.




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