Where is that water coming from?

Pumps beneath Podva House send water down Hartz Avenue

Many residents have seen it over the last week or so - a nearly constant flow of water heading down Hartz Avenue from the Podva-Shuey House about a block down to the storm sewers.

But the question is: Where is it coming from? Town Engineer Steve Lake says it's coming from sump pumps that empty out onto the street.

"They have a sump pump system to pick up ground water when it gets to a certain level," he explained.

Lake said the pumps have been quiet for the past several months but when the area gets rainfall and the water table starts to rise, the pumps will start up again. He added that while it looks like it's constantly flowing, it's really only putting water out for short periods.

"The pump goes on about every two minutes and stays on for only about 15 seconds," he said.

Currently the water is going into the storm sewers, but there are other options that are being examined.

"They (the owners) know it's a problem and they are working on a permanent solution of discharging it into the sanitary sewer," Lake stated.

The sanitary sewer is where water for household uses goes. In order to have the discharge from the pumps go there, they will need permission from Central Sanitation Services. Once that is accomplished, Lake said, it is just a matter of redirecting the lines from the pump to go into the sanitary sewer.


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Posted by Triogenes
a resident of Danville
on Apr 1, 2009 at 7:48 am

Well, (no pun intended) that explains the water going down the street that I pointed out in another part of the Town Square Forum.

Kudos to Geoff for a creative photograph of an ordinarily non-photogenic story.

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Posted by Community courtesy
a resident of another community
on Apr 1, 2009 at 12:55 pm

For readers' review, Dolores,

Water, water everywhere?
Around Town, posted by Triogenes, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Mar 26, 2009 at 7:54 am

What is going on with the seemingly unending stream of water flowing down Hartz Ave? It seems to start around the Podva House and flows north until it eventually goes "down the drain."
Can I scoop up some of this water for my garden?

Posted by Community courtesy, a resident of another community, on Mar 26, 2009 at 9:05 am

Dear Dolores,

As Triogenes seeks a scoop of water, let me share a unique reality. In the Alamo region, the shallow irrigation wells have water levels at <8 feet below the surface with some overflowing. As a result, many homes in the region with foundations carved into the hillsides or with various underground facilities have to use pumps to keep the water table from flooding their sub-surface areas.
It might be appropriate warning to share that such water is only for irrigation due to the various contaminants entering the shallow water strata from horse corrals, building sites and residential fertilization. Watering a vegetable garden using such water should be carefully considered.

Hal, as a community courtesy

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Posted by Geoff Gillette
Danville Weekly reporter
on Apr 1, 2009 at 2:36 pm

Geoff Gillette is a registered user.

Thanks for pointing it out Triogenes. And appreciate the comment on the pic. I had fun taking it and really enjoy it.

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Posted by Neighbor
a resident of Danville
on Apr 1, 2009 at 5:21 pm

You would think (the owners) would try and us as much of this water possible to irrigate there own yard. They have beautiful landscaping, I'm sure it requires a lot of water. Such a waste!

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Posted by Community courtesy
a resident of another community
on Apr 1, 2009 at 7:04 pm

Dolores, this is a very informative exchange with exceptional contribution that deserves readers' review.

A neighbor raised the issue of using shallow ground water in gardens that are ladened with minerals (anions and cations) that stain buildings and fences, contaminants from organics (manure and related animal additives), and residues of construction materials (caustics and corrosives). Thus, the clear run-off is not clear at all but could be contained for garden usage by containerization with sediment control.

There are water experts in our readership area that could advise on sedimentary processes and filtering that would create reliable water suitable to garden use.

Let's not challenge Geoff as much as regional expertise could support his defined reporting. Applause to Geoff, with exceptional thanks, for bringing this critically important issue to all the neighborhoods with shallow ground water availability.

Thank YOU, Geoff!

Hal, as a community courtesy

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Posted by Alamo Ron
a resident of Alamo
on Apr 2, 2009 at 7:44 am

An excellent example of LWF (see above and below)

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Posted by Halamo
a resident of another community
on Apr 2, 2009 at 7:47 pm

Dear Dolores,

How do I explain to our friends' RON that I can only see above and not below because, after all, I am HAL as the opposite of Heaven. Or would we assume that such viewpoint is understood.

Smile, as we celebrate LWF as "Lower World's Fundamentals." Oh, the Devil in me!!

The Alamo Towne Fool
@ODDs, a Saloon for Fools
The Hotel Snaysmuth
2625 Crescent Moon Lane
West Willimantic CA 94507-1078

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Posted by Alamo Ron
a resident of Alamo
on Apr 4, 2009 at 7:59 am

LWF (look up)

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