Wow! Basically a 25% salary increase when including benefits! And, that's for a 10 month work year - with weeks of vacation in between!

what is confusing is the wording. They get a retro raise for LAST year, plus they get a bonus (yeah, they use a different phrase). So, they get a raise for last year PLUS their salary is bumped this year. But article says no salary raise for 2017/2018 school year? I must be missing a piece of this puzzle. Because their salary for this year will be bumped by 2%.

And why union employees get a bonus is still a mystery to me. I thot once in a union the entire theory of a bonus goes away? And yes, twice now, they have received bonuses. Well, as long as the district can afford it I suppose.

SR resident,

You misread the article. In no way is it a 25% raise...

And also, you do realize we are only paid for the months we work, right? We don't get a paycheck during the summer.

Teacher - Your salary is the same whether they pay you over 10 months or 12 months. Some districts allow payments over the entire calendar year.

It amazes me how many people "bash" on teachers whenever they get a raise. The union has been negotiating for about a year. With this new agreement, it goes back to the beginning of the 16/17 school year, so yes, teachers will get a 3% retroactive pay check. In addition, there is a 2% one time payment to be given this coming November. And to clarify, teachers get no paid vacation. They are contracted to work about 180 days per year. They are not paid in the summer. They do have an option to withhold money from the 180 work days to be distributed in the summer, if they choose to. Hopefully, this clears a few things up.

Gomez,

I know this. Our district does not allow that option for teachers hired before a certain date.

This District has produced many excellent students who passed and rank highly compared to the rest of the State Student bodies.

Who pushed them there? Local residents, politicians, or Las Trampas wild life?

Of course not.

It's the teachers who did it!!!!!

Teachers vs the Teachers union.

The former I am all for supporting and paying them for their very valuable service.
The teachers union on the other hand is a disgrace. They get involved in issues not related to their trade. They are pro illegal aliens, they are for protecting known bad teachers at the expence of students. They are a vile organization and counter productive.

@ Frankly

No doubt teachers play a huge role in the success of our childern and I would never deny that. At the same time though involved parents that care and send their kids ready to learn is also a major factor. If you have ever taught in certain districts you would know the advantage the kids here already have before they walk into their first classroom and that advantage continues each and every year due to involved parents that are partners with their teachers.

Unions are how this sort of blatant waste of taxpayer money happens.

A longtime spokesman for the state court system accidentally butt-dialed a Post reporter — yukking it up about how “I barely show up to work” while pocketing a $166,000-plus salary and boosting his taxpayer-funded pension.

After speaking by cellphone with the reporter about a planned exposé on his cushy schedule, David Bookstaver butt-dialed back, and unwittingly left a four-minute voicemail while chatting with at least two other people.

On the voicemail, Bookstaver admitted lying to The Post about how he spent his weekdays and confirmed the accounts of court-system sources who said he’s been working as few as two days a week.

“I spoke to [the reporter] on the record for awhile. I said, ‘I’m in a much less visible position; that doesn’t mean I’m not doing anything,’ ” Bookstaver said.

“But, frankly, look, the bottom line: the story’s true. I’m not doing anything. I barely show up to work and I’ve been caught.”

The remark promoted laughter, after which Bookstaver explained that he didn’t need to show up “because they took away all my responsibilities and left my pay.”

At one point, he lamented over having bragged about his ability to play hooky. “They left me alone and look, I have a big mouth. I told people I’m not doing much. I do take a lot of time off,” he said.

“I kind of asked for it. You know, if you have a big mouth, you know it catches up with you.”

Bookstaver, who’s planning to retire Oct. 1, also raised the possibility he could get fired “because of a story in The Post,” but said it “would probably affect my pension check by $6 a month.”

“Look, the bottom line is, I’ll suffer through a terribly embarrassing story and then go get my f–king pension and retire,” he said.

the schools and teachers here (Dougherty Valley) rock. They deserve whatever raise they get (tho the whole bonus thing needs to go away, after all they DO have a union). If the district can afford bonuses, they can afford to roll that into salary increases. And the whole 'retro' thing should also go away. Negotiate the contracts ON TIME to avoid that. Still think the new Super really made out, he too rec'd a retro to the day he was hired. He should have been exempted since they had just hired him and negotiated his 'deal', which he accepted.
and really, the entire summer and holiday thing is a non-debate. They work 180 days (new teachers 181) and that is what their pay is based on. And yes, no teacher was ever 'forced' to be a teacher. They selected the career, so they too can't complain about the 10 wks no pay. sheesh

Scott Hale says:

"They deserve whatever raise they get (tho the whole bonus thing needs to go away, after all they DO have a union)."

So no matter what amount of taxpayer raise is provided there is no amount that would be too high in your eyes. Good to know.

@Scott Hale, what teacher complained about 10 weeks no pay in this thread? We know we are not paid for our time off, and that is fine. We chose this profession to get the extra time off to be with family and travel. So, quit posting made up things, stick your your usual nonsense posts.


"They work 180 days (new teachers 181) and that is what their pay is based on. And yes, no teacher was ever 'forced' to be a teacher. They selected the career, so they too can't complain about the 10 wks no pay. sheesh"

Now Tom: I don't think I implied that teachers can be granted ANY raise their union requests. That simply isn't reasonable, right? However, they do deserve some type of raise and mostly that could be annually depending. I do object to the 'one time payments' which is actually a bonus in the non-teacher world. Once you agree to work with a union protecting you, the thot of a bonus should disappear, I think.
There is a giant teacher shortage, so if this district does get behind what other districts pay, the teachers will leave. Not good. I know most of the people moving to Dougherty Valley do so because of the schools.....

anotherteacher: In this thread, it has been mentioned. My point (you missed) was a teacher knows going into their career they work 10 or so months and that tax payers shouldn't whine and cry about it and use it as a basis to deny raises since they only work 180 (or 181) days per year vs what the rest of workers do.

Glad you enjoy my notes. Now back to your main screen name, aye?

@Scott Hale,

Your words said "they deserve any raise they get." What else am I to think?
I agree our teachers perform a very important job and for the most part do this job extremely well. I am happy to spend my taxpayer money to reward their fine work.
On the other hand I am very much against the current union structure as I think it to be very misguided.

tom: The key word there is 'get'. Did you miss it? The district AND union must agree on the raise or more like the union agrees with whatever the district offers and if they don't....well, you know the outcome. Union asks for the moon and the district says NO! And after a lot of hot air, the sides eventually agree on a compromise.
bottom line the teachers 'get' the outcome. and, sure, they deserve reasonable raises, but not convinced about the whole 'one time pymt' dance. You have a union in your corner you mostly agree bonuses go bye bye.
and I agree on the union. Less than 12% of workers nationally have a union and membership is falling. Big big chunk of membership ARE teachers. And brace yourself since the state will be reducing funds to certain districts based on the 'new' calculation. Cutbacks mean first thing to go are 'raises'......will be a mess.

Teachers are required to join the union or have equivalent "dues" deducted from their checks. The deduction is mandatory whether or not they join the union.

One question to ask the district is why the administrators ( including district level) get the same raise the teachers get, even though they supposedly bargain against them? Can you say "conflict of interest"?