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SRVUSD board to debate adding all-gender bathroom at each high school

Original post made on May 22, 2018

The San Ramon Valley Unified School District Board of Education is set to discuss Tuesday the potential inclusion of one gender-neutral, multi-stall bathroom at each district high school.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, May 21, 2018, 12:38 PM

Comments (19)

Posted by What!
a resident of Alamo
on May 22, 2018 at 7:43 am

The school board is actually going to discuss this? I'm not sure who is crazier...the children, their parents or the school board! I say NO!

Posted by Kudos Kids
a resident of Danville
on May 22, 2018 at 7:55 am

Kudos Kids is a registered user.

These young'uns give me hope for the future.

If only the Whats of the world were as grown-up.

Posted by What!
a resident of Alamo
on May 22, 2018 at 8:07 am

There have to be boundaries! Clearly, you are a Democrat where anything goes!

Posted by Kudos Kids
a resident of Danville
on May 22, 2018 at 8:50 am

Kudos Kids is a registered user.

I'm actually an Independent, California's second most popular political affiliation.

And somebody needs to put you on an exclamation point diet, Henny Penny.

Posted by Herman Glates
a resident of Danville
on May 22, 2018 at 9:37 am

Herman Glates is a registered user.

Why would you get rid of a girl’s restroom? It seems you need MORE girl’s restrooms, not less. I see ladies waiting in line to use the restroom all the time.

I never see fellows wait in line to take a whiz.

I personally ain’t got no problem taking a dump in a stall next to a women. But can all women say the same?

I feel sorry for these poor fellows who think they are a woman. And it ain’t right to say things and make them feel bad just because they ain’t right in the head.

But should we as a school district spend good money to accommodate their peculiarities?

If a fellow thought he was the King of England, I’d say he needs to go see a shrink, but I’d be ok calling him “your highness” to his face just so he wouldn’t feel bad. But should the taxpayers build a royal palace for him just to accommodate his delusion?

Same thing with this bathroom thing. Taxpayers shouldn’t spend extra money to modify bathrooms just to accommodate people’s peculiarities.

Posted by C. R. Mudgeon
a resident of Danville
on May 22, 2018 at 9:56 am

In addition to having a “stalls only” restroom that is open to all genders, it would be good to have a “urinals only” restroom. It could be open to all genders also, at least the genders that can pee standing up....

Posted by C. R. Mudgeon
a resident of Danville
on May 22, 2018 at 10:02 am

As a side comment, I heard a rumor that 70’s rock band Brownsville Station are releasing an updated version of their biggest hit. It will be called “Smokin’ in the All-Genders Room”. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that, except for the smoking, that is.)

Posted by Resident
a resident of San Ramon
on May 22, 2018 at 12:09 pm

Political correctness is a form of mental aberration that limits thinking, in the extreme, like this proposal, political correctness is a kind of insanity.

Posted by Read the Article
a resident of Danville
on May 22, 2018 at 1:09 pm

Herman they aren't going to spend any of your precious tax payer money on this. All they are discussing is changing the signage on one of the bathrooms from "Women" to "All Gender". It isn't taking away a bathroom from the girls because if you are a girl you can use the "All Gender" bathroom. I've been in hotels where they have done exactly that and it hasn't been a problem at all. The high schoolers will do fine with it. It's the older folks that seem to have issues.

Posted by Herman Glates
a resident of Danville
on May 22, 2018 at 3:15 pm

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Signs cost money, son.

You kids think everything’s free.

But this ain’t about money.

This proposal means one less restroom facility for women only. You say girls can still use the “all genders” restroom, but some ladies don’t like to do their lady business around men. And they shouldn’t be crowded into fewer restrooms.

Women shouldn’t be forced to go find another restroom just because someone suffers from a mental proclivity.

If you want an all gender restroom, then you should take one from the boys. They have less business to take care of. And they’re generally less concerned about the sounds their bodies make when they’re taking care of business.

Posted by Female Student
a resident of San Ramon Valley High School
on May 22, 2018 at 8:36 pm

SRVHS differs in that it has been proposed to convert the D-Hall BOYS bathroom into a "Multi-Stall Gender Neutral Bathroom."

There is already a current problem for male students; many of their restrooms are closed at lunch because of a few litterers and vandals. Converting this bathroom won't solve any of these discipline problems. In fact, I foresee more incidences of destruction and uncomfortable interactions. Why take from the 50% of students to give to the 1%?

As a girl, I would not use a mixed bathroom. It would be very weird, awkward, and uncomfortable to use a toilet next to a male. Sounds, accidents, and bodily functions could all cause humiliation, embarrassment, or harassment.

The school board claims this will be a "no-cost" pilot. But they will have to spend money to create stalls from current urinals in the men's room. Or, more worrisome, will they just leave open urinals for anyone walking in to accidentally catch a glimpse of something they don't want to? Either way is not acceptable.

Who are the 4 student representatives who recommended this? They more than likely did so to be considered "inclusive." They fear, and somewhat rightly so, of being ostracized for not supporting gender-confused classmates.

There is currently already a single-stall, gender-neutral restroom for anyone on campus to use. All of this hullabaloo over a small segment of the student population. I recognize that there are people who want this, but not everything anyone demands is ever granted in real life.

The district is all for inclusion and diversity. I sincerely hope they don't ignore, but include, diverse perspectives of people like me in their decision. But based on their track record, it is doubtful.

Why must I be a guinea pig on such a private personal issue? What if this was tried with staff bathrooms instead?

If they pass this "pilot" it may never be undone. They'll already have a foot in the door to claim they can't undo changes they have already made. I am saddened for what myself and younger kids will have to endure if this proposal is implemented.

Posted by Danville Mom
a resident of Danville
on May 23, 2018 at 7:21 am

I just cannot understand why so much time and effort is being put on THIS school change while kids are constantly being bullied, threatening to commit suicide, telling kids they should kill themselves (I personally know of a situation that is occurring rigbt now.. not threatening suicide but bullying and worse) etc.

People, our town is still reeling over a tragic end to bullying and here we are discussing "gender neutral toilets ".

I don't know, call me crazy but will these toilets really help an issue or, perhaps give kids yet another reason to bully someone?

Let's instill anti -hate programs in our schools. The curriculum already exists but for whatever reason, our district has decided not to implement them in our schools. What is wrong with this picture???

Posted by What!
a resident of Alamo
on May 23, 2018 at 8:23 am

Yup, it's me again... I want to agree with Female Student who suggested that this pilot program be tested on the staff. Great idea!!!!!!!! Signed, Heny Penny

Posted by Smitty
a resident of Danville
on May 24, 2018 at 6:18 am

What a disgrace...what is the matter with these board members...i guess there are no real problems in schools that they have to solve so they come down to solving this when there is no problem.....they are sick and don’t know how teens really think and feel at this time of their lives....wait till they see what prob
Mes this will create.

Posted by Does Their Homework
a resident of San Ramon
on May 24, 2018 at 6:49 am

In response to "Danville Mom"... here is a list of programs offered by the district on bullying, tolerance, and acceptance. They are trying their best to combat the problem, but you know what?? Bullying starts at HOME. It's a parents responsibility NOT the schools to teach acceptance and tolerance to their children. And it's painfully obvious from these comments that it's not being done. When did it become a school district or a teacher's responsibility to raise our kids?? Get off your phone and do your job at home as a parent and none of this would happen in the first place. And to everyone who posted here about not accepting kids who are Gender Neutral and giving them a place to feel safe (especially those who used name calling- "What!" & "Smitty")... shame on you. YOU are the bullies and the ones who really need to attend these workshops.

Safe School Programs
There are MANY programs being implemented, piloted, etc., at our 35 school sites, as we strive to make our schools safe places to learn and engage. The following are examples of our efforts and is NOT a comprehensive list.

ES=Elementary School / MS=Middle School / HS=High School

Ability Awareness Program

In partnership with the San Ramon Valley Council of PTAs Special Needs Committee, our District has provided professional development to all middle-school and high-school staff members around the challenges faced by many students in our district. The professional development consists of simulations that model challenges ranging from motor skills, to hearing and visual impairments, to processing challenges. Through these simulations, staff gain some insight into the difficulties that some students face on a daily basis. In addition to staff training, the Abilities Awareness simulations have been incorporated in to our required high school health course. The intent of using these simulations with students is to help them better understand their own challenges and the challenges faced by some of their peers.​

Botvin's LifeSkills curriculum

Specifically taught in grades 6, 7 and 9. Botvin's Lifeskills is a school-based prevention program designed to reduce risk factors and enhance protective factors related to alcohol, tobacco and other drug (ATOD) use among students. Botvin's LifeSkills curriculum has a separate, developmentally appropriate curriculum for each grade level. Each curriculum builds on earlier grade levels, an instructional design which enables students to learn important skills sequentially and retain them year after year. For more information on the program, please visit their web site at Web Link

“Bullied” the video

This very powerful video, produced by the Southern Poverty Law Center as part of the Teaching Tolerance project. tells an inspiring story of a young gay man who took a stand against bullying. The District Climate Committee previewed and recommended this film to be viewed and used as a teaching tool for all SRVUSD staff. This was accomplished during the 2010 - 11 school year.

Challenge Days (HS/MS)

Challenge Day’s is a 6 1/2-hour program experience designed for 100 students and staff. The program is created to build connection and empathy, and to fulfill the vision that every child lives in a world where they feel safe, loved, and celebrated. Challenge Day's mission is to provide youth and their communities with experiential workshops and programs that demonstrate the possibility of love and connection through the celebration of diversity, truth and full expression. Several of our district secondary schools have sponsored Challenge Day events on their sites.

Character Counts (ES/MS/HS)

In collaboration with the City of San Ramon, many schools within the San Ramon Valley Unified School District are utilizing the Character Counts program to supplement their character development efforts at the site. The six “pillars”, as they are called in the Character Counts program, align very closely with the SRVUSD adopted character traits. For more information about the Character Counts program, please visit their web site at Web Link

Guest Speakers/Assemblies (ES/MS/HS)

Parent Education opportunities - In partnership with the San Ramon Valley Council of PTAs, the District has a long and rich history of providing thoughtful parent education opportunities related to many health and safety topics, ranging from cyber bullying, to eating disorders, to drug/alcohol use, to dealing with a strong-willed child. Throughout this partnership, the PTA and District have brought in some of the country’s leading experts on topics ranging from resiliency to the 40 Developmental Assets. Visit the PTA web site for upcoming parent education opportunities.

Peer Mediator Program (MS/HS) - Several sites have established a peer mediator program designed to help students resolve their personal issues with one another through a process facilitated with the help of a trained adult staff member and student mediators.

Rachel’s Challenge (HS/MS) - The Rachel’s Challenge presentations are given in schools and communities by members of her family and other speakers, using video footage of the Columbine High School massacre and its aftermath, combined with Rachel Scott’s drawings and writings, in a campaign to quell school violence, bullying, and teen suicide. As of 2009, Rachel's Challenge has developed a team of 30 speakers addressing young people in schools and colleges worldwide about Rachel's example. The Rachel's Challenge program includes establishing Friends of Rachel clubs in schools, following the initial presentation, to sustain the campaign's goals on a long-term basis. Schools around the country have incorporated Rachel's challenge into their own clubs bringing the message to their students. Several of our secondary schools have brought the Rachel’s Challenge program to their campuses.

Safe Space Training (HS) - The purpose of this training is to provide site personnel with a knowledge base and skill set that will enable them to support LGBT students on their campuses by creating a safe school and classroom environment. All high school staff have or will be trained in this program.

Second Step Character Development Curriculum(ES)

Second Step is a Character Development Curriculum mandated in grades K-5 in the San Ramon Valley Unified School District. Since its district-wide adoption in the 2002-03 school year, over 250 teachers have been trained to use the program with fidelity in their classrooms and hundreds of classroom kits have been purchased and distributed to every elementary school site. The Second Step program is a science-based, research-validated, classroom-based social skills program for preschool through junior high students (4 to 14 years old). It is proven to reduce aggressive behaviors and increases children's social-emotional competence and build character.

Soul Shoppe (ES)

Several elementary schools in the San Ramon Valley utilize the curriculum, assemblies, and programs, developed by Soul Shoppe (Web Link Soul Shoppe teaches skills that promote safety and responsibility and provides activities that build community and trust.

Steps To Respect

The research-based STEPS TO RESPECT program teaches elementary students to recognize, refuse, and report bullying, be assertive, and build friendships. STEPS TO RESPECT lessons(PDF) can help kids feel safe and supported by the adults around them so that they can build stronger bonds to school and focus on academic achievement.

Student Ambassador Program (MS/HS)

The Safe School Ambassador Program (SSA) is a cadre of 35 + students recruited and trained to take action with their peers on the spot and in the moment, when potentially hurtful situations occur on campus in order to prevent and stop acts of cruelty and bullying. Additionally, the hope is that their action will positively influence the attitudes and behaviors of others who observe their intervention. Many of our secondary schools have the SSA program on site.

“Think Before You Speak” District Video (MS/HS)

With a desire to improve the climate on their own campus, students and staff at Charlotte Wood Middle School developed a site-based video series called “Think Before You Speak”. Every Friday, these thought provoking videos, written and directed by students, showed students in real-life situations where people were being hurtful in the words they were using. The situations ranged from bullying to derogatory remarks and other hurtful language. The videos provided insight on how to defuse situations and encouraged students and staff to improve their own school environment with the phrase – “Think Before You Speak”.

Posted by Smitty
a resident of Danville
on May 24, 2018 at 7:11 am

Our district must have an excessive amount of money in their budget. This conversion of bathrooms will really cost them. Maybe the money can better be spent on teacher needs....this is getting to be a wacko district..

Posted by Bayareamom
a resident of San Ramon
on May 24, 2018 at 3:50 pm

Just found this article and found it interesting:

Web Link

Personally, if I were a student, I would have issues being forced to use a gender neutral restroom, due to privacy concerns/issues (and NOT because I'm not supportive of the community in all other aspects). I don't personally believe that simply because someone may not feel comfortable using gender neutral restrooms automatically must also mean that this labels someone as being unsupportive, unkind, bullish, or what have you. I certainly don't feel that way, but on the other hand, I would definitely not be comfortable using these restrooms, even as an adult, much less a high school, or younger, student.

If you read the above article, and I hope that everyone posting comments here will do so, you may find that these students (many of them) have concerns about this issue, due mainly because of lack of privacy issues.

Posted by Bayareamom
a resident of San Ramon
on May 24, 2018 at 4:04 pm

Another good article re this issue:

Web Link

Wow. Am glad our son is out of school; a lot of mixed emotions about this. Am totally on board w/anti-bullying and tolerance for ALL, but am also against forcing students to use these restrooms (in some schools who are making ALL restrooms gender neutral) who are simply not comfortable because of privacy and safety concerns.

Posted by Paul
a resident of Danville
on May 25, 2018 at 9:56 am

Bayareamom.. The district could care less about the parents or majority of students views. All they care about is whether it's politically correct or not. God help us if we make a decision that is not PC. This district is heading downhill like a snowball headed for hell.

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