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Gas line break closes street, businesses

Original post made on Oct 7, 2013

A gas line break prompted the closure of a roadway and some businesses for more than an hour Friday evening. The gas line, a "riser" above the ground, was shut off shortly after crews arrived on scene.

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Posted by Julia
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 7, 2013 at 9:58 am

Quick response and good work PG&E.

Don't let anyone tell you different.

Thanks for being there...Julia Pardini from Alamo

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Posted by Beth
a resident of another community
on Oct 7, 2013 at 1:35 pm

Of course if they don't respond in Danville all hell will break loose .. but in a working class neighborhood like san carlos that was not the case.

Such double standards!

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Posted by C. R. Mudgeon
a resident of Danville
on Oct 7, 2013 at 5:14 pm

I assume that Beth is making allegations regarding the major gas line leak and fire that took place in San Bruno (and not in San Carlos). Since she seems to be implying that PG&E is somehow responding faster in Danville than in other communities, I would urge her to be clearer in her accusations. Because I don't think they are merited by the facts.

I'd also point out that people in Danville work just as hard as people in other communities. Unless Beth feels that only some kinds of work, and some kinds of workers, are valuable? Is there some sort of qualifying criteria, for a worker to be "working-class"?

It's good that PG&E responded fairly quickly to a report of a gas leak. It's good whenever, and wherever, they do that. Note that this is independent of the questions that were raised in the aftermath of the San Bruno fire, as to whether PG&E was doing enough to proactively inspect and monitor their large pipelines. Opinions on that issue, can and do vary.

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Posted by Conservator
a resident of Danville
on Oct 8, 2013 at 12:06 am


I must say that you are a master spinner of daft cynicism. Allow me to state that I have know doubt that the crews for PG&E do everything they can to support an aging infrastructure. Their efforts are not the premise for my response. Your coy assertion that those whose life's toils have brought them prosperity is as much 'working class' as the tradesman or the directed 'blue-collar' worker is exceptionally shallow, in my opinion.

What the prior contributor, Beth, was describing when she wrote "in a working class neighborhood" was that undeniable perspective anyone of us have felt on the way up from meager beginnings. Her statement to one of reasonable and sound mind was clearly intended to convey a message that those of a lesser socioeconomic demographic often garner less attentive response from a vast array of social and public services. Regardless of the metric and/or service, you and I both know that response times always favor a more affluent community. It is either a direct causality of our money, our ability to influence the sphere in which we live or some combination of both that drives our greater benefit. As the number of perennial potholes in one's paved street goes up, so goes the response time when any service is requested.

Unless you were afforded a silver spoon in the cradle, you know exactly what I am conveying. There should be little to no variation in the interpretation of this opinion.

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Posted by C. R. Mudgeon
a resident of Danville
on Oct 9, 2013 at 11:30 am

It occurs to me that I misinterpreted Beth's reference to San Carlos, and that she WAS referring to the current issue there, regarding the inspection, testing (and therefore shutdown) of a large pipeline, as a preventive action. (And she was not referring to the San Bruno fire of a couple/few years ago, as I had assumed.)

It still seems to me that the San Carlos situation is not comparable to the situation that occurred in Danville, where there was an actual leak report. PG&E responded quickly to an actual leak report, as they should have. And in the news yesterday, PG&E crews also responded quickly to wide-spread reports of natural gas being smelled in various areas of Richmond. In the latter case, multiple PG&E crews were not able to find a source of the smell, in part because the smell was not localized at all, and it dissipated. So that part of it remains a mystery. But crews were very quickly dispatched in Richmond (and in greater numbers, given the unclear location), just as they were in Danville. I stand by my original contention that there isn't any evidence of Danville receiving preferential treatment from PG&E. If a gas leak is smelled/reported, they respond quickly, regardless of where.

The question of whether PG&E is being proactive enough, in terms of dealing with the testing and inspection of higher-risk large pipelines is a separate issue, and I would also submit that the economic demographics of the neighborhood or town are not a governing factor.

Was I being a bit snide, in my comments about Beth's use of "working class"? Sure I was. I think I know what she meant. But I was making a point of my own, objecting to any implication that people from Danville don't (also) work hard. It might be argued that the children of Danville residents might have been born with some sort of spoon in their mouth (maybe silver in some cases, maybe stainless steel in others), but for the vast majority of adult Danville residents, there was, and is, a lot of hard work involved.

For the record, I don't work for PG&E, and I don't think I even know anyone who does. But I think it was highly insulting to claim that they would respond differently (more slowly) to a gas leak report, as a function of the affluence of the area.

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Posted by Conservator
a resident of Danville
on Oct 9, 2013 at 12:22 pm

I for one can agree that likely not one of us can cite or point to any credible evidence that our regional utility was or has been slow to respond to any potential crisis whether in 'our' neighborhood or one of a differing socioeconomic basis.

I believe I highlighted that position in my prior response. In terms of directing any real or perceived insult to the hard working, typically 'working class', individuals who support and maintain our infrastructure, I would not do such a thing. Rather, I would only, and only under thoughtful consideration, direct those notions to authors of snide commentary.

I'll leave this discussion with the offering that there is a very fine line in my experience between 'working hard' and 'hardly working'. I would argue that those who have the spare time to comment on obtuse perspectives such as this one clearly know where they stand relative to that line.